If you have used Tren, read this

[rmewrench]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LL7bL4F9G4
He tested a bunch of ugl lab gear... The results are an eye opener..

 

[body_by_donuts]

JD, Tren E and EQ are the only compounds that make me feel that way.. For me I use CQ-10, high fiber and B12 to try and flush my body.

 

[MPMC]

Didn't once source on the boards in the past used to advertise they he had some procedure he used in his brewing process that distilled heavy metals during the brewing process? I'm not too familiar with the chemistry, so I don't know if the whole thing was just marketing BS, but if it works, it may be a good idea for us to list that procedure in the homebrewing section and begin to encourage or inquire with our favorite sources whether such procedure is being employed.

Yeah, I know who it is you are thinking of. I always thought it was just him marketing his products but who knows..

 

[Seth Gecko]

This is a great thread.

I've often wondered about this, from what I have read most UG's don't have the technology or expertise to check for what is in the raws............ A melting point test won't reveal lead, arsenic or other heavy metals.
I was on another board the other day and a member there was complaining that he had black lines developing in his fingernails, his doctor figured it was arsenic poisoning...... The member figured the arsenic was from UG products.
After seeing some of the stuff the Chinese are willing to do to cut corners IE melamine in milk, lead in toys etc etc I have almost no doubt that buying black market raws from a Chinese middle man comes with a big risk.
They know that 99% of the people buying raws have no way of testing.

 

[69nites]

This is a great thread.

I've often wondered about this, from what I have read most UG's don't have the technology or expertise to check for what is in the raws............ A melting point test won't reveal lead, arsenic or other heavy metals.
I was on another board the other day and a member there was complaining that he had black lines developing in his fingernails, his doctor figured it was arsenic poisoning...... The member figured the arsenic was from UG products.
After seeing some of the stuff the Chinese are willing to do to cut corners IE melamine in milk, lead in toys etc etc I have almost no doubt that buying black market raws from a Chinese middle man comes with a big risk.
They know that 99% of the people buying raws have no way of testing.

An arsenic test kit is about 15 bucks. Lead less. Its not hard.

Getting heavy metals out of the gear? A little more complicated.

 

[blubbard]

to the OP: Are you going to get a blood test for heavy metals?

 

[-KB-]

It fucking sucks thinking of the shit in these oils we have put into our bodies, if only they legalized it with heavy regulations, then i believe there would be safe and cleaner products being made...but i'll keep dreaming.

Agree 100%!

 

[FlyingDragon]

A good UGL will have a process in place to capture heavy metals, filtering alone will not capture all the metals. Heavy metals in powders is common, thus the reason I stress to anyone who wants to home brew for themselves to always wear a mask and eye protection and to keep the area your cooking in ventilated. Breathing in the metals is far worse then injecting them. The injection route only has a min amount of metals whereas someone hovering over a beaker of fresh cooked gear is getting a great deal of exposure to the heavy metals.

 

[Braw16]

This was a very eye opening thread always knew in the back of my mind that it cant be that sterile but wow just gives you something to think about.

 

[athens]

Didn't once source on the boards in the past used to advertise they he had some procedure he used in his brewing process that distilled heavy metals during the brewing process? I'm not too familiar with the chemistry, so I don't know if the whole thing was just marketing BS, but if it works, it may be a good idea for us to list that procedure in the homebrewing section and begin to encourage or inquire with our favorite sources whether such procedure is being employed.

I believe Apollo stated he had some special filtration procedure to remove heavy metals from his product.

 

[mike36roidman]

ive used it and got wicked hot flashes and night sweats but the gains were awsome

 

[JackD]

FD is correct here, there are some good guys out there that are passionate about this subject that show passion to help others. FD is a really smart and knowledgeable on this subject and knows about safety, science, and chemistry.

A good UGL will have a process in place to capture heavy metals, filtering alone will not capture all the metals. Heavy metals in powders is common, thus the reason I stress to anyone who wants to home brew for themselves to always wear a mask and eye protection and to keep the area your cooking in ventilated. Breathing in the metals is far worse then injecting them. The injection route only has a min amount of metals whereas someone hovering over a beaker of fresh cooked gear is getting a great deal of exposure to the heavy metals.

On my end, the stuff I had gotten was a gift from a friend from a lab that hasn't been around very long, but shut doors not long after I received my gift he wanted me to try. My mistake for trusting a friend, (yes friend has had some issues too). Well the sad part is that if heavy metals are in the oil, but in small dosages, that my usage over a prolonged period of time the metals will continue to build up, and since the changes are so subtle that you don't know the problem till you wake up one day and it dick slaps you right in the face. However in my case I have spent the last 10 months trying to figure out why I feel so crappy, and if you don't think and correct and use something to remove the heavy metals then you'll continue to feel crappy, because the Body's expel method will take a long time. My advice here is to get your stuff from a very Reliable, been around a long time, with great reviews individual if you go with a UGL. If they have been in the game, they know what to do.

Now, i should note, this could happen with any power and not just tren, the tren is the only one I had added in that was new and different, and it was a few months out before the symptoms started for me.

On the treatment route, I have spoken to the Dr and going to be getting Heavy metal testing.

I did speak to a researcher, and I will confirm this later after my meeting with him, but Selenium should help the body remove Mercury if that's the cause. Now I've taken 300mgs yesterday, and another 300 this morning, and seeing if it helps.

Let me know if anyone has questions.