crowman
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- Nov 2, 2011
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The "false positive" you refer to is a false positive for PCV. Meaning it can look like you have a rare disease where too many RBC's are produced because of a bone marrow problem. TRT however does NOT create a false positive for an elevated Hgb and Hct. Those numbers are real. And unlike PCV the cause is known. Test is a known red bone marrow agonist, meaning it stimulates erythrocytosis, or makes it more efficient however you want to look at it. And as for the term "thick blood" or "thin blood" doesn't really mean anything in real medical terms. But if there was a direct translation, an elevated Hct would be the definition of "thick blood."
What I really want to know is what is your agenda with this? To convince people not to take the safest rout possible and donate blood to keep their H&H in the normal range? How does that benefit you or any of the people who may be unfortunate enough to actually take your advice? It's not like donating blood is damaging to health, it benefits others, it benefits the donor in this case and anyone who is being followed by a doctor can determine through routine blood tests how often and how much they need to donate to keep their numbers in a safe range.
I can tell you from personal experience having gone the first year and a halt to two years of TRT without donating blood and now donating regularly I feel a huge difference. The first time I drained a liter and infused a liter of saline to replace it I felt a difference before I was done.
And as far as the Hgb of a Sherpa? Please, does anybody reading this live their life 30,000 feet above sea level? What the hell does a sherpa's compensatory mechanisms from living at extremely high altitudes have to do with someone living is Arizona or Nevada where they are likely to become dehydrated in addition to having a high H&H and thus put them at even greater risk for Thrombo/embolic event.
Just get regular blood tests people, and if you need to donate blood to get back to the normal range then do it.
Why are you taking such offense to a Q&A? As stated im providing info I paid to learn in a licensed and very accredited manor. If it was BS would doctors be able to count it as CME via the medical board?
I have no agenda. I ref people to clinics other than mine all the time. me telling them that the info out is incorrect? I guess thats an agenda to educate based off scientific fact.
Regarding your personal experience that just proves your lack of education in this field. "The first time I drained a liter and infused a liter of saline to replace it I felt a difference before I was done." It was not the drained liter of blood that made you feel better. It was the $1.50 bag of saline. Have you ever gone to the hospital for extreme food poisoning? I have and as soon as they start fluids you start to feel better. Same thing with a hangover. IV yourself and youll feel better within minutes. It was not your blood you drained. Do you feel better after a blood nose? that's a blood donation be it choice or not.
Regarding a Sherpa, they dont live at 30k feet. Anything above 5k feet will elevate Hemoglobin. The doctor that taught this course works at a ski lodge in the winters in CA for fun. Hes on testosterone therapy and his average Hemaglobin is 24. Surely he has no idea what hes talking about though.
Why is someone in AZ anymore dehydrated than someone in MI? We all have fresh water and AC. You sweat more during a workout ( if you do it right) then you will all day working in an AZ office. im not sure i understand your point with that comment.