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Starting your own peptide business

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legaljuicer

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Mar 21, 2011
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A must read for anyone interested in starting their own research business.

I’ve learned a lot over the past few months and spent a lot of money doing it, but that’s ok. I found the answers I needed. Let me start by saying that this post isn’t meant to scare or cause any misconception. It’s just for educational reasons that I know myself and everyone has been wondering. I was interested in starting my own peptide company like so many people have done. Amino Acids are everywhere for sure. What concerned me was why certain companies seem to have issues and why others seem to not.

I went to an attorney here in my home town and found that this was not going to be an easy thing to find out. After hours of endless searching on the internet I began realizing I would need to consult a federal attorney. WOW! Those guys are real expensive that’s all I have to say. So my local attorney contacted an attorney that was currently representing several research companies under retainer and had assisted them in setting up their businesses. What he found out was a lot, and way too much for me to even start writing about. However, everything is LEGAL! Just as long as the guidelines are followed exactly, and that’s where it becomes very complicated and I understand why these companies have retained attorneys to solidify their standards with their business practices.

The most interesting point was the disclaimers. All legitimate sites will have these to declare, but what’s interesting is that there are many sites that do not seem to understand what it says which would be a red flag to the authorities. I showed him some ads and business cards that had been handed out at some bodybuilding competitions, and he stated that this is what he had seen when viewing different research companies on the internet. He felt some were running their companies with high standards and proper business practices. Others he saw had pictures of bodybuilders with testimonials and very unusual names for their sales of certain items. It seemed to him after reading their disclaimers that these sites were in violation of the part of their disclaimer which talks about intent. He said that this was a big problem. The owners apparently think that the disclaimer only falls upon the purchasing party, where in fact it falls upon both parties. By these companies soliciting bodybuilders it would be in violation to the "intent to distribute" fine line. It is one thing for a customer to search your company out and decide to purchase. There is nothing wrong with this. The intent part of the agreement would then fall upon the customer. However, if there is a potential for human abuse or use, such as some of these so called legitimate research companies are doing by going to bodybuilder competitions and pushing research products thinking that their disclaimer covers them and it does not. They are seeking the customer in a manner that would be a violation to the intent part of the disclaimer making them completely open to be arrested at any time. It is completely illegal to go to a bodybuilding competition or advertise these products to bodybuilders, fitness athletes, etc. So I asked about the bodybuilding sites that advertise banners for research companies. He advised not to do it, but he did say that he felt that could be argued. The laws regarding the internet may or may not be clear and that although these companies advertising this way may not be having any issues. It is possible that it could be an issue. That is the problem when it comes to the internet. The laws cannot keep up. He did advise me that if I started the company not to advertise like that even though it may or may not be intent. The sites seem to educate and have a lot of knowledge for those wanting to do research on some items, but they also go the other way too.

So the jest I got is that the products cannot be used for anything except laboratory research in nonliving organisms. Anything else is illegal and breaks the guidelines under the laws regarding sales of these items. So I have decided that it is just too expensive to put all the proper people in place to run one of these. I just do not have the money. However it is a legitimate business but the way it is run is crucial.

HOPE THIS HELP OUT WITH SOME MISINFORMED INFORMATION OUT THERE...

-This was sent out to inform not scare. There is nothing illegal about research except if the guidelines are being ignored. I do not think I am interested in purchasing from any company that does not understand their own disclaimers and laws regarding a business they run.
 
winnivee

winnivee

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Dec 20, 2010
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I've talked to several peptide owners and they have all said the same thing that it cost 15-20k to get started with a good bit of stock. Problem is great white / man power and few others have the market locked down.
 
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Shamrockbear1

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Dec 24, 2011
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I dis agree I could start a peptide business for less than five grand sorry because you have disclaimers it does not cost you 20k. A corporation is about $800 and to send me a note with my peptides that's it for research use only costs you 20k don't think so... Explain your costs other than peptides which I can get from the Pharma district in china and some lab equipment... I have worked in the legal field so I'm pretty up on all laws including crimina laws as well. I had a post already done about how anyone could start a peptide and or gear business with less than 5k which at retail selling gear will make 125k in sales. If you like the discovery channel had a ugl they did a story on it was pretty simple straight forward they inflated the prices but it showed how it was done...

I've stated before you put up te money I'll start you a peptide company obviously I'll have a percentage of the company but I don't have the time to do all the work :( 2 kids and a job is busy...
From ordering product lab set up and website... It's pretty simple don't believe the hype only problem is it becomes a real job taking orders and shipping ect...
 
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YAMAHA147

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Feb 23, 2012
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Do u have any experience in making and compounding peptides?
 
FlyingDragon

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Maybe you should disclose how u figure you can do this for less than $5K. A trip to China alone will cost at least $5K. If your not going to make the trip to meet your suppliers, I am not sure how your going to build up any trust with them.

With that said I believe putting a good chunk of $$$ towards a retainer at a high profile law firm as a hedge in the event one of the governmental agencies decides to make an example of you. I have worked with law firms on all sort of matters throughout my life, the one thing I have learned is a highly recognized law firm with a high fee will save you $$$ in the long run. It may b hard to stomach the final bill, but at least u can sleep at nite knowing your well insulated.


I dis agree I could start a peptide business for less than five grand sorry because you have disclaimers it does not cost you 20k. A corporation is about $800 and to send me a note with my peptides that's it for research use only costs you 20k don't think so... Explain your costs other than peptides which I can get from the Pharma district in china and some lab equipment... I have worked in the legal field so I'm pretty up on all laws including crimina laws as well. I had a post already done about how anyone could start a peptide and or gear business with less than 5k which at retail selling gear will make 125k in sales. If you like the discovery channel had a ugl they did a story on it was pretty simple straight forward they inflated the prices but it showed how it was done...

I've stated before you put up te money I'll start you a peptide company obviously I'll have a percentage of the company but I don't have the time to do all the work :( 2 kids and a job is busy...
From ordering product lab set up and website... It's pretty simple don't believe the hype only problem is it becomes a real job taking orders and shipping ect...
 
winnivee

winnivee

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Dec 20, 2010
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Cost from what GWP and few others have told me.

Had a buddy start up professional peptides which went to shit. Have to set up a merchants account. In order to set up a merchants account to import peptides and raw material such as research Chris legally you have to have a lawyer on your paper work. Trust me no lawyer is putting their name on some shit like that for less than 5k... So there goes your 5k. To Legally operate a peptide site and company LEGALLY I repeat in the United States you must I repeat you must have lawyer on board. If you do not you'll end up like THAT and few other companies. Supplies for peptides and Raws enough to stock up is 5-8k easy. To make sure you have plenty in case business takes off. Vials, solvents, and misc supplies is another 2-3k... Now this info came from 2 of the top peptide companies on the web and my buddies but he was just lazy and didn't keep up with orders. I feel GWP and man power prob know what they are talking about since they have the market on this shit. 5k will barely get all the paperwork pushed through a lawyer and pay for merchants account and all other paper work.

Igf from china w/ merchants acct is about $9 vial. You would want 2-300
That $2700

Ghrp6 about $2 each 2-300 each
$600

Bro that 3k right there and still have about 5-8 must have peptides plus all your research AI's and supplies.
 
winnivee

winnivee

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Dec 20, 2010
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Not to mention someone who knows there way aroun computer so when some googles peptides it brings yours up with the rest and not on the 15th page. Also web designer for website. That's not to cheap either. Also creating your own domain. 5k might get you started but not in business.
 
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Shamrockbear1

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Dec 24, 2011
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Well I hear what your saying so maybe a couple more thousand to have more product I can agree on. The legal aspect disagree... First and foremost everyone purchasing peptides is not a research company purchase period so it would be easy for them to prove you were selling peptides for personal consumption... Try buying some anthrax see what hoops you have to go through to get it they verify your a actual lab and a real company. The products also them selves I can order with the current place I use now no need to fly there lol. Honestly, I feel if the government wants to go after you as a company they have deep pockets and can and will if they decide too. So no amount of lawyer protects you period so a waste of money and because I get a piece of paper from Gwp saying better use it for research does not protect you that's like saying I'm selling you weed for medicinal purposes only... Not go an happen I thing the government hasn't come down on them but will. Also you can use guru.com hire a web designer for less than a grand to make a site with cart. I pay my seo guy $200 bucks a month and I would come up on the first page of google organic search (which i have done before) Regardless of all that the point is it becomes a full time job, answer email, processing orders, ordering products, ect... So yes for around 5-8k I could start a bare bones operation and grow. The point most important is operating in the grey area will eventually come down on them believe me especially making lots of money and getting big they will come knocking. So could I do it sure, Do I have time? No. Do I want to take the risk ? Maybe so ,ets say you make it and making a couple hundred thousand a year if they come after you and indict or convict is it worth it couple years possible probation or jail? Thats up to you, not sure it's worth the money In the end...
 
irish_2003

irish_2003

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Dec 12, 2010
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it's all about marketing...you have to use all avenues available...GWP didn't get his ferrari by being lazy...there's many many boards that don't have pep sponsors yet and facebook is an amazing free tool to use...i think it can be done definitely but legal safety is the most obvious hurdle why most don't follow thru starting up
 
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Fury

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Jun 6, 2012
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Outlaying 20 grand to make 100000 grand a year seems like a great investment.i don't know if many of you guys have been to Hong Kong or china as I have but dealing with them your gotta be on your game.they will try to short change you where ever they can.that is why Chinese gh is so inconsistent.
 
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Shamrockbear1

MuscleHead
Dec 24, 2011
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Legal safety is really the biggest issue when they freeze your assets take all your stuff I hope the guy from Gwp like riding the bus... Because explain to me how Viagra is a research drug for what? Nothing, so don't think Pfizer and other large drug companies won't put pressure on the government to go after peptide companies selling drugs without scripts plain and simple multiple billion dollar companies won't stand for it trust me I've seen companies go after them I've worked in a intellectual property law firm and they crush guys like manpower and Gwp. That's why china has free range they have no trademark or patent laws it's the wild west for all consumer products.
 
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