big_paul_ski
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this is dose dependant as well. i think var needs to be ran at about 100mg ED and that kicks the shit out of the liver and puts the lipids in the shitter. i would say anything under 75mg and your wasting your money.
safe is defined in the eyes of the beholder...
for me Var didn't impact my liver much at all but DESTROYED my lipid panel horribly, i get bloods every four weeks so i watch it closely. I want to live a long time and low HDL is a very bad thing.
imho the safest is test, followed by EQ and Deca. I wouldn't consider any oral safe so to speak due to the methylation and other aspects of usage.
One more thing what is up with all this anxiety crap with EQ ? In 10-15 years surfin these forums , until last year on one if the newbie boards had u never heard of such a thing? Its like a huge group of noobs who judging by their posts, are overindulgent, impatient and unrealistic with cycles and goal setting, hence become anxious. Then blame the EQ lmao, now that group has infiltrsted and infected the whole conmunity and now i see otherwise, intelligent experienced guys entering it to chats. Hogwash! There aint no such thing, there just seems to be a whole new train of thought related to this- i mean one forum had a survey and the entire board hates eq and loves anadrol based on them saying anadrol wirks and eq dont? Impatience! One hits ya hard and fast so it satisfies the immediate need of impatient gratification and one can be analogized to the tortoise, slow n steady wins.. there is a time and place for it all.
Great post, recently in either muscle development, or iron man magzines one of the doc based on resesrch did an article of what he considered what would be the top three safest in case one so obsessed to cycle too long and overindulge. No orals, EQ number one followed by deca and test. No primo, dont confuse mildness with safety
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