anyone remember this post by EDED....a well respected person ?????
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To all the members here, there are some issues other than the customer service.
first, some of these old issues that were mentioned while i was briefly working for them with no improvement or late improvement. and there are more info coming out.
1. mistyped info and mislabled products
CJC1293 (mod grf1-29) , they do not have the CJC1295 without DAC, that IS 1293 the useless or non effective GHRH (search the threads here for more info on the differences)
Error was found, but no public anouncment some people bought them thinking its the good stuff,,,again no anouncements made still
myostatin...now i see thats been corrected to myostatin propeptide,,,so it took awhile for them to fix the website,
receptor grade ? dont know what that is...but techinally taking your money with mislabled products mean a fraud.
2. Impurity issues
PDE5 products are non effective or less potent, this was way before the 'rumor' according to them started on the internet. THe issue has not been dealt publicly as far as i know nor any replacements nor apology.
Follistatin vial to vial variations during recon. Their follistatin never goes into complete solution. i have seen a few specs, however worked fine, this recent one is much worse. I was told that they are introducing Arginine into the mix. Jim has said many things and some of them are; a scientist told him to ...for 'absorption' issue?? bs.
sounds like trying to make it look more in the vial.
search follistatin and lyophilized on google, you will find MANY vendors selling what its supposed to be the same human rDNA follistatin protein.....ALL of them said lyophilized with NO additives
meaning arginine being in there has ZERO function other than adding shit to what you had paid for.
doesnt matter if its inert or shitpowder or not,,,it is called a contaminant and its a tainted product. you cant say its a pure product and put more shit in there in the warehouse.
^^^ coke dealers lol
3. no expiration date no lot #
some products come in with STENLABS logo on the vial....meaning its been sitting in who knows where for who knows how long?
other issues that i am flipping out over is that , its a bully tactic and they really f'd up, could have done it right, but i hope someone stops them because dont care whos behind it, you put anything else other than what i had bought without telling me? you are a scammer and shold goto jail.
better business bureau, somone call them up lol.
oh yeah promises about how they will be different than other companies,,,,roided out Trex really show how professional and legit this 'research' company is....i buy reagents for work all the time, i even used sigma's website to show examples how they should change it around if they want to be REAL. nope. fucking pissed i spent hours making reports.
certificate of analysis, i dont think they know what that really means.
it means in cGMP industry,,,i buy a bulk of same lot, because if the experiment goes wrong i have only one lot to track down to not several.
that means proper cat# Lot# must be on the vials and products. with NEW CofA and updated ones SHIPPED with your order
its illegal to ship things without MSDS as well,
they are running it like a very very crappy UG roids dealers.
no tracking no DC#, ' you must trust us we are busy' 'you will get your order' blindly taking their tainted stuff
myostatin propeptide, the owner told me 'well people are getting sick because we have the viral version right?' the owner doesnt even know what he is selling or taking. Neal tld me not to say this online, he told me alot of things that i cant say online. I dont usually sleep well lying. just me i guess...
myostatin propeptide is just a protein, im not sure which buffer it was used prior to lyophilization however Jim has said he felt 'something' through his gloves while handling the stuff. thats scary.
Scary because they dont have a gdamn C of A so i dont know which buffer it was used???
ive seen raw (limited) results from the biotech company that they use oversea,,,which i said it passes for identity, but even the scientist was not cooperative from china when i was hired to be the scientist mediator or some bullshit. I was never given a full access ,,,I could have audited the shit out of them but if you hide shit, i know why.
my job is a quality control personnel at a vaccine plant, under cGMP guildelines and i could have had a field day with the scientists there. but its too late now.
oh yeah the employees didnt get paid on time.
i didnt sign any forms
there was no job description
this is absurd to be 'legal'
Precision Pep's reps will flip with this, but why? i told you all this before, this dumb shit probably wont last long. I also tried to ask Phil to get out but I did my best oh well.
all these things were passionately spoken out to them, but just brushed aside, made me feel like i was the one whos crazy and i was the one with eyes and otehrs were blind.
stopped bodybuilding goal/hobby cuz of that too,,,digusted by people and at myself.
so please do NOT buy haphazardly from ANY place unless you know for sure.