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richiec
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The complaints with Ergo were by people who didn't even take their peptides, or have never taken ANY peptides. So I think those complaints can be thrown out of the window. For the complaints that came from guys who actually used their products, you have to look at what they used and for how long. Guys would take 1 bottle of follistatin and complain they didn't gain 15lbs lmao. I took 1 vial and gained 3 lbs, AND kept it. I didn't expect to turn into Jay, but these others guys did. But hey, you keep doing your thing and bashing these companies. You're obviously doing well for yourself
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richiec
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Ok Blue, you apparently are in the "know" lmao
These peptides aren't anything that is so difficult to produce that it would cost that much to make, jsyk. Anytime something new comes tot he market, the mark up on it is outrageous. Remember when IGF first hit the scene? Unbelievable! But you can get it for a fraction of the cost now. Look at gh, do you really think it costs that much to mass produce. Wait, I bet you do! Let me guess, you think that paying $150 for a bottle of test prop means it's legit, right?
BlueDevil
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- Jul 9, 2011
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I know you have a discount code in your sig which makes your opinion on the subject worthless. Follistatin is not mass produced for the black market. It is not a simple process and it is very expensive. So again, whatever the fuck you took was not real follistatin. That's what I know.
Weak attempt at a strawman argument, BTW.
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legaljuicer
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- Mar 21, 2011
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This is an old email from Jim T. I wonder what ever happened to the deal with Phizer? Or when he told me they had a contract with the Mayo Clinic....which even Bryan H posted on a site and retracted later after he was proven FALSE... PP is a bunch of thieves and LIARS.
per Jim T:
I am flying to Texas in January we have formulated a deal with Phifzer for FDA approved Oral Peptides.. I can’t really talk about it until after the meeting but we will be growing a bit over the next couple years..
The website is being revamped again and I will be introducing Precision Peptides and Eternal Nutrition….
per Jim T:
I am flying to Texas in January we have formulated a deal with Phifzer for FDA approved Oral Peptides.. I can’t really talk about it until after the meeting but we will be growing a bit over the next couple years..
The website is being revamped again and I will be introducing Precision Peptides and Eternal Nutrition….
L
legaljuicer
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- Mar 21, 2011
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anyone remember this post by EDED....a well respected person ?????
EDED EDED is offline
Ecclectic Teacher, Experimenter of all things Body/Mind Change
Brewmeister Grade A
**********************************************
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,345
Default caution: precision peptides
To all the members here, there are some issues other than the customer service.
first, some of these old issues that were mentioned while i was briefly working for them with no improvement or late improvement. and there are more info coming out.
1. mistyped info and mislabled products
CJC1293 (mod grf1-29) , they do not have the CJC1295 without DAC, that IS 1293 the useless or non effective GHRH (search the threads here for more info on the differences)
Error was found, but no public anouncment some people bought them thinking its the good stuff,,,again no anouncements made still
myostatin...now i see thats been corrected to myostatin propeptide,,,so it took awhile for them to fix the website,
receptor grade ? dont know what that is...but techinally taking your money with mislabled products mean a fraud.
2. Impurity issues
PDE5 products are non effective or less potent, this was way before the 'rumor' according to them started on the internet. THe issue has not been dealt publicly as far as i know nor any replacements nor apology.
Follistatin vial to vial variations during recon. Their follistatin never goes into complete solution. i have seen a few specs, however worked fine, this recent one is much worse. I was told that they are introducing Arginine into the mix. Jim has said many things and some of them are; a scientist told him to ...for 'absorption' issue?? bs.
sounds like trying to make it look more in the vial.
search follistatin and lyophilized on google, you will find MANY vendors selling what its supposed to be the same human rDNA follistatin protein.....ALL of them said lyophilized with NO additives
meaning arginine being in there has ZERO function other than adding shit to what you had paid for.
doesnt matter if its inert or shitpowder or not,,,it is called a contaminant and its a tainted product. you cant say its a pure product and put more shit in there in the warehouse.
^^^ coke dealers lol
3. no expiration date no lot #
some products come in with STENLABS logo on the vial....meaning its been sitting in who knows where for who knows how long?
other issues that i am flipping out over is that , its a bully tactic and they really f'd up, could have done it right, but i hope someone stops them because dont care whos behind it, you put anything else other than what i had bought without telling me? you are a scammer and shold goto jail.
better business bureau, somone call them up lol.
oh yeah promises about how they will be different than other companies,,,,roided out Trex really show how professional and legit this 'research' company is....i buy reagents for work all the time, i even used sigma's website to show examples how they should change it around if they want to be REAL. nope. fucking pissed i spent hours making reports.
certificate of analysis, i dont think they know what that really means.
it means in cGMP industry,,,i buy a bulk of same lot, because if the experiment goes wrong i have only one lot to track down to not several.
that means proper cat# Lot# must be on the vials and products. with NEW CofA and updated ones SHIPPED with your order
its illegal to ship things without MSDS as well,
they are running it like a very very crappy UG roids dealers.
no tracking no DC#, ' you must trust us we are busy' 'you will get your order' blindly taking their tainted stuff
myostatin propeptide, the owner told me 'well people are getting sick because we have the viral version right?' the owner doesnt even know what he is selling or taking. Neal tld me not to say this online, he told me alot of things that i cant say online. I dont usually sleep well lying. just me i guess...
myostatin propeptide is just a protein, im not sure which buffer it was used prior to lyophilization however Jim has said he felt 'something' through his gloves while handling the stuff. thats scary.
Scary because they dont have a gdamn C of A so i dont know which buffer it was used???
ive seen raw (limited) results from the biotech company that they use oversea,,,which i said it passes for identity, but even the scientist was not cooperative from china when i was hired to be the scientist mediator or some bullshit. I was never given a full access ,,,I could have audited the shit out of them but if you hide shit, i know why.
my job is a quality control personnel at a vaccine plant, under cGMP guildelines and i could have had a field day with the scientists there. but its too late now.
oh yeah the employees didnt get paid on time.
i didnt sign any forms
there was no job description
this is absurd to be 'legal'
Precision Pep's reps will flip with this, but why? i told you all this before, this dumb shit probably wont last long. I also tried to ask Phil to get out but I did my best oh well.
all these things were passionately spoken out to them, but just brushed aside, made me feel like i was the one whos crazy and i was the one with eyes and otehrs were blind.
stopped bodybuilding goal/hobby cuz of that too,,,digusted by people and at myself.
so please do NOT buy haphazardly from ANY place unless you know for sure.
EDED EDED is offline
Ecclectic Teacher, Experimenter of all things Body/Mind Change
Brewmeister Grade A
**********************************************
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,345
Default caution: precision peptides
To all the members here, there are some issues other than the customer service.
first, some of these old issues that were mentioned while i was briefly working for them with no improvement or late improvement. and there are more info coming out.
1. mistyped info and mislabled products
CJC1293 (mod grf1-29) , they do not have the CJC1295 without DAC, that IS 1293 the useless or non effective GHRH (search the threads here for more info on the differences)
Error was found, but no public anouncment some people bought them thinking its the good stuff,,,again no anouncements made still
myostatin...now i see thats been corrected to myostatin propeptide,,,so it took awhile for them to fix the website,
receptor grade ? dont know what that is...but techinally taking your money with mislabled products mean a fraud.
2. Impurity issues
PDE5 products are non effective or less potent, this was way before the 'rumor' according to them started on the internet. THe issue has not been dealt publicly as far as i know nor any replacements nor apology.
Follistatin vial to vial variations during recon. Their follistatin never goes into complete solution. i have seen a few specs, however worked fine, this recent one is much worse. I was told that they are introducing Arginine into the mix. Jim has said many things and some of them are; a scientist told him to ...for 'absorption' issue?? bs.
sounds like trying to make it look more in the vial.
search follistatin and lyophilized on google, you will find MANY vendors selling what its supposed to be the same human rDNA follistatin protein.....ALL of them said lyophilized with NO additives
meaning arginine being in there has ZERO function other than adding shit to what you had paid for.
doesnt matter if its inert or shitpowder or not,,,it is called a contaminant and its a tainted product. you cant say its a pure product and put more shit in there in the warehouse.
^^^ coke dealers lol
3. no expiration date no lot #
some products come in with STENLABS logo on the vial....meaning its been sitting in who knows where for who knows how long?
other issues that i am flipping out over is that , its a bully tactic and they really f'd up, could have done it right, but i hope someone stops them because dont care whos behind it, you put anything else other than what i had bought without telling me? you are a scammer and shold goto jail.
better business bureau, somone call them up lol.
oh yeah promises about how they will be different than other companies,,,,roided out Trex really show how professional and legit this 'research' company is....i buy reagents for work all the time, i even used sigma's website to show examples how they should change it around if they want to be REAL. nope. fucking pissed i spent hours making reports.
certificate of analysis, i dont think they know what that really means.
it means in cGMP industry,,,i buy a bulk of same lot, because if the experiment goes wrong i have only one lot to track down to not several.
that means proper cat# Lot# must be on the vials and products. with NEW CofA and updated ones SHIPPED with your order
its illegal to ship things without MSDS as well,
they are running it like a very very crappy UG roids dealers.
no tracking no DC#, ' you must trust us we are busy' 'you will get your order' blindly taking their tainted stuff
myostatin propeptide, the owner told me 'well people are getting sick because we have the viral version right?' the owner doesnt even know what he is selling or taking. Neal tld me not to say this online, he told me alot of things that i cant say online. I dont usually sleep well lying. just me i guess...
myostatin propeptide is just a protein, im not sure which buffer it was used prior to lyophilization however Jim has said he felt 'something' through his gloves while handling the stuff. thats scary.
Scary because they dont have a gdamn C of A so i dont know which buffer it was used???
ive seen raw (limited) results from the biotech company that they use oversea,,,which i said it passes for identity, but even the scientist was not cooperative from china when i was hired to be the scientist mediator or some bullshit. I was never given a full access ,,,I could have audited the shit out of them but if you hide shit, i know why.
my job is a quality control personnel at a vaccine plant, under cGMP guildelines and i could have had a field day with the scientists there. but its too late now.
oh yeah the employees didnt get paid on time.
i didnt sign any forms
there was no job description
this is absurd to be 'legal'
Precision Pep's reps will flip with this, but why? i told you all this before, this dumb shit probably wont last long. I also tried to ask Phil to get out but I did my best oh well.
all these things were passionately spoken out to them, but just brushed aside, made me feel like i was the one whos crazy and i was the one with eyes and otehrs were blind.
stopped bodybuilding goal/hobby cuz of that too,,,digusted by people and at myself.
so please do NOT buy haphazardly from ANY place unless you know for sure.
L
legaljuicer
MuscleHead
- Mar 21, 2011
- 414
- 56
oh.....anyone remember how many people were sent to the hospital due to products from Precision Peptides????
I am sorry Jim T. lost his life but I need to bring up this thought since his mom brought it up in her post.
Trinity Memorial Gardens: James Tamborello
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. The sorrow we have for you, our hearts are broken we will never be the same without you. You brought us so much joy,and laughter. The desease of giving you Cystic Fibrosis you was not fair. We are so sorry for doing that to you. You did not die from CF, you died of something else that we don't know why. But we will find out why, and what did this to you, and why you were taken away from us so soon. Our tears can't stop and we know that you wouldn't want us to be like this. We love you so much Jimmy and will miss you forever in our hearts. We are caring your pain now, the pain that you always had and kept so silent to others. Your only one big wish in your life was to be happy and have a family of your own children. That wish was never granted to you, and we are so sorry. Come back to me, I want our baby back home. I Love You !!!!
Love, Mom
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So Bryan H is wrong in what he states in his post. Jim T. did not lose his life due to CF(life threatening illness)
Our friend Jim Tamborello was laid to rest today. Through all of Jim's battles with his health... he found peace and rest earlier today with his friends and colleagues gathered around him. Jim passed Tuesday, February 7th after bravely battling a lengthy, life threatening illness.
Gavin Smith, the new CEO of Precision Peptides has informed me that our business will carry forward as usual, but with a renewed sense of pride and determination to be the best. Precision Peptides had a vision created by Jim, his partners and his staff that will be carried through into the future. Jim had concepts, ideas and focus with a company in a tremulousness industry that has seen many other companies promise the moon, yet deliver next to nothing with the consumer losing out in the end. Gavin will lead the team of determined and focused employees to carry on Jim's ideals and continue to not only bring the best prices and customer service but to continue its growth into places no one could have ever predicted.
We will miss our friend, but I am certain he is looking down upon us with a smile and appreciation to his friends.
Please direct any questions, concerns or condolences to me at [email protected].
Thank you.
www.precisionpeptides.com
I am sorry Jim T. lost his life but I need to bring up this thought since his mom brought it up in her post.
Trinity Memorial Gardens: James Tamborello
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. The sorrow we have for you, our hearts are broken we will never be the same without you. You brought us so much joy,and laughter. The desease of giving you Cystic Fibrosis you was not fair. We are so sorry for doing that to you. You did not die from CF, you died of something else that we don't know why. But we will find out why, and what did this to you, and why you were taken away from us so soon. Our tears can't stop and we know that you wouldn't want us to be like this. We love you so much Jimmy and will miss you forever in our hearts. We are caring your pain now, the pain that you always had and kept so silent to others. Your only one big wish in your life was to be happy and have a family of your own children. That wish was never granted to you, and we are so sorry. Come back to me, I want our baby back home. I Love You !!!!
Love, Mom
----------------------------------
So Bryan H is wrong in what he states in his post. Jim T. did not lose his life due to CF(life threatening illness)
Our friend Jim Tamborello was laid to rest today. Through all of Jim's battles with his health... he found peace and rest earlier today with his friends and colleagues gathered around him. Jim passed Tuesday, February 7th after bravely battling a lengthy, life threatening illness.
Gavin Smith, the new CEO of Precision Peptides has informed me that our business will carry forward as usual, but with a renewed sense of pride and determination to be the best. Precision Peptides had a vision created by Jim, his partners and his staff that will be carried through into the future. Jim had concepts, ideas and focus with a company in a tremulousness industry that has seen many other companies promise the moon, yet deliver next to nothing with the consumer losing out in the end. Gavin will lead the team of determined and focused employees to carry on Jim's ideals and continue to not only bring the best prices and customer service but to continue its growth into places no one could have ever predicted.
We will miss our friend, but I am certain he is looking down upon us with a smile and appreciation to his friends.
Please direct any questions, concerns or condolences to me at [email protected].
Thank you.
www.precisionpeptides.com
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