Corona Virus. How much of a threat is it?

[rawdeal]

I am sensing some bonding here between CFM and Jin, and it is blowing my fucking paradigm outta the water.

 

[Jin]

I am sensing some bonding here between CFM and Jin, and it is blowing my fucking paradigm outta the water.

We’re related. Sometimes we even show affection.

The beatings were bad when I was a kid. Now that I can take him we get along better.

 

[rawdeal]

How old were you when you first discovered that Uncle CFM was Dad too?

 

[tommyguns2]

Clearly this virus has a higher transmission rate than a regular flu, because hospital workers don't wear masks on a regular basis. But if 50,000 people die each year from the flu, I'm assuming that every flu victim that is ill enough to go to the hospital doesn't normally die.

Let's say 50% of those sick enough with the flu to have to go to the hospital actually die annually. If that's the case (that seems like a high percentage, but since it's a guess, why not?), then we usually have 100,000 people each year hospitalized with the flu. As we don't hear about hospital bed shortages each year due to the flu, our health system obviously has no problem handling this number of people solely for the flu. That doesn't take into account all the other maladies... asthma, accidents, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, etc.

I'm curious if the biggest concern is not the disease itself, but the rate of infection and strain on hospital services, specifically respiration services. I wish the news organizations would do a better job focusing on that as the concern, rather than trying to scare everyone to death.

 

[JackD]

Clearly this virus has a higher transmission rate than a regular flu, because hospital workers don't wear masks on a regular basis. But if 50,000 people die each year from the flu, I'm assuming that every flu victim that is ill enough to go to the hospital doesn't normally die.

Let's say 50% of those sick enough with the flu to have to go to the hospital actually die annually. If that's the case (that seems like a high percentage, but since it's a guess, why not?), then we usually have 100,000 people each year hospitalized with the flu. As we don't hear about hospital bed shortages each year due to the flu, our health system obviously has no problem handling this number of people solely for the flu. That doesn't take into account all the other maladies... asthma, accidents, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, etc.

I'm curious if the biggest concern is not the disease itself, but the rate of infection and strain on hospital services, specifically respiration services. I wish the news organizations would do a better job focusing on that as the concern, rather than trying to scare everyone to death.

It wouldn’t be the news if they weren’t trying to scare people to death. But that’s correct, it’s the quick rate of infection and those needing care is the problem rather than the disease itself.

Hospitals are okay to deal with seasonal Flu, and have enough beds for those cases, plus the routine accidents and other ER issues, however, a new disease that causes a quicker and longer period period on top of current Flu levels and accidents are what would overwhelm the system.

And it would suck to be that doctor or nurse who would have to decide who is getting care to survive and who’s left to suffer and die. And what’s to say that person who is receiving care will survive.

point is, the current health care system isn’t set up for a pandemic, only set up to handle the typical normal seasonal stuff.

 

[BackAtIt]

I'll tell ya what is pathetic, If I may...

So, I'm in the local liquor store, well, buying liquor….I ask the servant how the liquor stores are open when only essential buss. should be....He tells me that they are deemed essential...I'm like, "what"?....He laughs and says, "yeah, it's been determined that if alcoholics don't get there fix, then there would be a boat load of problems that would make the cv look "childish"."..

Are u kidding?....So, in this country (USA),we have such an alcoholic issue that we are afraid to shut down a liquor store?...I'm with CFM, I DON'T THINK the cv is our major concern...

 

[5.0]

I'll tell ya what is pathetic, If I may...

So, I'm in the local liquor store, well, buying liquor….I ask the servant how the liquor stores are open when only essential buss. should be....He tells me that they are deemed essential...I'm like, "what"?....He laughs and says, "yeah, it's been determined that if alcoholics don't get there fix, then there would be a boat load of problems that would make the cv look "childish"."..

Are u kidding?....So, in this country (USA),we have such an alcoholic issue that we are afraid to shut down a liquor store?...I'm with CFM, I DON'T THINK the cv is our major concern...

They would require to many beds and in this current situation that is not possible

 

[Mike_RN]

An alcoholic going through withdrawal is an ICU level patient about 72hrs after last drink. We need those beds for sick people so they gotta keep the booze flowing. They also linger in those beds for days.

 

[Lizard King]

An alcoholic going through withdrawal is an ICU level patient about 72hrs after last drink. We need those beds for sick people so they gotta keep the booze flowing. They also linger in those beds for days.

Liquor sales are up over 400% here since the bars and restaurants are closed.

 

[BackAtIt]

An alcoholic going through withdrawal is an ICU level patient about 72hrs after last drink. We need those beds for sick people so they gotta keep the booze flowing. They also linger in those beds for days.

Mike, last time I researched this, heroine withdraw systems are milder compared to alcohol withdraw systems...Is this correct?...I thought I also read where more people die from the withdraws from alcohol, than heroine...Is this right too?...

 

[BackAtIt]

Liquor sales are up over 400% here since the bars and restaurants are closed.

Ya wanna go into the moonshine buss. with me, brah?...Very easy to start it up...Really limited funds needed...U in?...

 

[Jin]

Mike, last time I researched this, heroine withdraw systems are milder compared to alcohol withdraw systems...Is this correct?...I thought I also read where more people die from the withdraws from alcohol, than heroine...Is this right too?...

You cannot die from a heroine withdrawal.

You can die coming off booze.