midevil
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with winny NO , I know of a guy that got some serious liver issues with ridiculous amounts of W for long periods. You piss orange your liver is getting stressed.
with VAR yes toxicity is way the hell over rated.
OF course have some BW done cause some can handle alot more than others.
Well the winny part, thats just where common sense comes into place, ive ran winny @ 100mg a day for 12 weeks with no problems..
However, if your gonna run 400mg of winny a day and drink a bottle of vodka every night, then yeah theres gonna be problems lol.
you keep saying that you ran this or that with no problem , just because your liver didnt jump out of your body doesnt mean you didnt have a problem. winnie trashes lip levels in MOST people who run it and LONG term liver stress comes into effect as well.
get pissed if you want but that macho im to tough for anything to hurt me is a recipe for disaster , if you want to take risk with yourself thats one thing but worse yet you keep saying this stuff and some newbie whos afraid of needles will jump at the excuse to run some irrational oral only cycle . why wouldnt he KBD ran them with " NO PROBLEM "
Again the OP was does the shit burn fat...a tiny miniscule amount (maybe) at the end of the day Im just worn out with the can my roids burn some fat for me posts...the answer is NO...not the way most people imagine losin bodyfat...especially when the diet isnt even mentioned....seen what takes bodyfat off and for the most part AAS help by gaining some muscle which improves over all basal metabolism, but as far as a fat burning product again NO.
And as far as dying from something...that can happen from anything, there are no guarantees in life, you could avoid everything unhealthy and get murdered or killed in a car accident...live your life the way you decide to live it, but understand that with anything you do there are potential consequences, really make sure you understand that, after that its on you , no crying if shit goes wrong.
I know they don't CAUSE fat loss, but they are handy for keeping your gains while you dip below maintenance cals right? My upcoming cycle is a cutting cycle, and I understand that even calling it that is something of a misnomer, but the idea is I don't intend to put on a ton of mass, but I will be eating below maintenance cals and busting my ass to get rid of the gut... That would be an appropriate use right?
heres a copy and past from a post i made at some other boards
Cutting with steroids / mass adding compounds
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there is a big misunderstanding with newer members that steroids have some magical cutting properties. there is some evidence that var and even tren has some fat cutting ablity but the key word is SOME. steroids main job in a cutting cycle is maintaining lean mass while runnig a calorie defecit. steroids are NOT a true cutting compound in the same sense as T3 , clen , ephedrine ,dnp ,etc. but for some reason more and more newbies see them as the magic potion to cure their a poor diet.
on the other hand im seeing more and more newbies who weigh 150-180 pounds and cant gain weight that think that they can continue to eat like they do and take steroids to get big , some of these rocket scientist think they can add calories and protein to eat right during the cycle and gain their weigh but go right back to eating like they did before the cycle.
NEWSFLASH the bigger you are = the more calories and protein you will need . if you go back to your old diet after the cycle you will soon go right back to your old weight.
if you can not eat right over the long haul dont waste your time doing steroids.
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