Do OTC supplements really work?

[Blacken]

I see your point GS perhaps I give to little credit to the typical person as I think they are far more stupid. I've seen poor college kids obsessed with building muscle buy everything not having a clue what works or doesn't just because of some athlete endorses it. If gear was legal I imagine the supplement companies would be selling it was well. Nobody wants to do the research for anything they just use everything. Supplement prices would regulate but if the supplement companies sell gear I think fools will still use everything because some athlete says they use everything. Anything to get that little edge even if gear gives 20lbs of muscle they will believe 5 of it comes from celltech or some other shit supplement since they took everything at once. If an athlete says you get better result stacking supplement with gear it causes some synergy effect for real gains. I believe people are that dumb.

Test Booster are a good example of people not researching worth a dam. The concept behind them is they help older men make natural test again but you have college kids taking them because apparently they can't read what they are supposed to do. Not saying they workjust who they are intended for and still young kids will waste money on it even when told it isn't for them.

We live in a world where people will pay $700 for a name brand belt and $500 for a pair of name brand sneakers there is no logic in what people will waste money on.

 

[Diesel0022]

Ketsugo - Could you elaborate on the part I bolded? I don't want to say anything due to a simple misinterpretation.

Ok, I'm sure you can quote a "scientific" article that "proves" this. Lets put it this way. When I take Glutamine I don't stay sore near as long as when I don't. So I don't know if its repairing the muscle or not but I like what it does do for me. I can workout sooner than if I didn't take it. Muscle repair? Recovery? I don't know and could give a sh it, I just know it works.

Placebo?

I can post countless studies, studies that go down to the specific pathway for each attributes MOA

 

[gunslinger]

Ketsugo - Could you elaborate on the part I bolded? I don't want to say anything due to a simple misinterpretation.



Placebo?




I can post countless studies, studies that go down to the specific pathway for each attributes MOA

Maybe placebo. I get the same "placebo" effect from eating lots of protein too. Interesting...lol

 

[Diesel0022]

Maybe placebo. I get the same "placebo" effect from eating lots of protein too. Interesting...lol

Maybe that's what takes care of the soreness

Fact of the matter is, it does not have an effect on muscle recovery, but hey, kids still feel like creatine gives them steroid like gains when we know that's not true either

 

[SAD]

I'll take placebo effects over no effects. If I take a fake viagra, and my dick gets rock hard for 2 hours while I drop two loads, and then you tell me that it was a sugar pill and not viagra, does that mean my dick wasn't hard for two hours and I didn't have two orgasms? No, it means that I don't give a fvck if it was fake, I clearly loved it and would like some more sugar pills.

 

[Diesel0022]

Come on man

Tadalafil >

 

[SAD]

Come on, what?

And tadalafil is greater than what?

And what does that have to do with me saying I'd take placebo effect over no effect?

 

[Diesel0022]

Small talk

I'm not arguing that point, you can't argue opinion

I prefer tadalafil over the big v

 

[SAD]

I was using viagra as an example. You seem to be fairly incapable of letting your guard down. One of those, "me vs. the world because I'm smart and everyone else is ignorant" kinda things.

It's tiring.

 

[Diesel0022]

You can perceive it however you'd like too

 

[ketsugo]

On my iPhone I see no bold print but from others I'm guessing we taking glutamine? Actually a very powerful nutrient improves nitrogen retention , I use it to help recovery but more importantly build immune system - I don't believe it's placebo at all. Necessary ? Not sure but beneficial absolutely !!!! Training hard and working odd hours, compromises our ability to fight infection. You need to stay healthy to train like a demon . Glutamine helps - I usually get a powder with extra glutamine , but now and them if I have extra cash I like to get a combo of free form l glutamine and peptides - it's nutritional support basically . For years I trained natural 15 - glutamine I was religious . I probably kept the area health food store in business . However food always comes first eat well . Spend most of your money at grocery store

 

[Rottenrogue]

Say what you want but if I could mainline karbolyn I would.


Not based on any benefits but damn when you have a sweet tooth that stuff is like straight liquid candy