Triz or ret?

[Massive G]

Yes I am stopping the mk677. Never had thyroid tested while on it. My levels have been steady for years now so any change will stand out like a sore thumb. I may stop the reta too. We will see.

 

[genetic freak]

I didn't understand why you were running them together to begin with. One increases Ghrelin and the other suppresses Ghrelin.

 

[Massive G]

I didn't understand why you were running them together to begin with. One increases Ghrelin and the other suppresses Ghrelin.

I always am interested in real world experiences and will sometimes change things up based on others positive experiences especially with new substances. I was reacting to this post below in the retatrutide thread over at pro muscle. Obviously there are tons of differences between his client and me based on age and experiences with training drugs and diet but interesting for sure.

 

[Massive G]

I always am interested in real world experiences and will sometimes change things up based on others positive experiences especially with new substances. I was reacting to this post below in the retatrutide thread over at pro muscle. Obviously there are tons of differences between his client and me based on age and experiences with training drugs and diet but interesting for sure.

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I was using Mike Arnolds mk677. As I have had bad luck with the research mk667 powders and liquids from research companies.

 

[genetic freak]

Yeah, the GH and IGF-1 response from MK677 if you are already taking enough GH (4+ iu) is pretty much zero. The only thing it would be giving you at that point is an appetite, which are suppressing with the tirzepatide. If you are not taking GH or a low dose I could understand, but I would assume you are taking more than 4 iu if you are trying to grow tissue.

 

[tommyguns2]

I read that thread over at PM, and the pairing of Tirz with MK677 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And the "natty's" response sounds strange. I'm more apt to believe the guy jumped onto test/tren for six weeks, but whatever.

 

[genetic freak]

I read that thread over at PM, and the pairing of Tirz with MK677 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And the "natty's" response sounds strange. I'm more apt to believe the guy jumped onto test/tren for six weeks, but whatever.

PM is basically Reddit now, so...

 

[Massive G]

Well I am stopping the retatrutide. I popped my back yesterday.
My brand new washer had a defective seal and flooded the room and hallway.
So it took a ton of towels to soak it up.
Fortunately, I have a high powered fan from the garage gym and the neighbor had a one of those super duper tube like heaters and was able to dry the area so no water damage. Unfortunately all the lifting bending and carrying heavy baskets of wet towels to the laundromat stressed out my lower back on my left side and it's inflammed so bad I am actually walking around the house with a walker like Harvey Weinstein. It's bad enough for me to take ibuprofen. I popped some bromelin and 25 mgs prednisone. I wish I had a 5 day supply of vicodin but not going to the ER or doc. I would do more damage going up and down the stairs on my front porch and getting in and out of the car so I will just stick it out. Hopefully it will be over in a week or so. My reverse hyper isn't making a dent in it at all so I will be a gimp for a bit.

 

[DogMogul]

I have lost 38 pounds this year (since 1/3/25) on Tirzepitide.

100% changing my life


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[Massive G]

I have lost 38 pounds this year (since 1/3/25) on Tirzepitide.

100% changing my life


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What dose are you on and were there any bad sides like sema? I lost some weight on retatrutide but appetite is un changed.

 

[big bx]

What dose are you on and were there any bad sides like sema? I lost some weight on retatrutide but appetite is un changed.

Second week of 9mg reta... appetite is gone again. I eat...but by 3rd meal I don't want too. I try for 5 meals, 2500 cal

 

[DogMogul]

What dose are you on and were there any bad sides like sema? I lost some weight on retatrutide but appetite is un changed.

I have had zero side effects.

What has worked wonders for me.

The normal dosing protocol is

Month 1 - 2.5mg per week
Month 2 - 5mg per week
Month 3 - 7.5mg per week

And you continue raising 2.5 per month on your dosages until you hit 15mg per week.

WHAT I DO DIFFERENTLY:

Side effects often can occur when you increase your dosages basically the amount of glp causes it. - so what I do I split the dosages into a shot every 3.5 days. I example month 2, instead of going up a full 2.5 to inject at once per week, I split it into two doses.

This makes it so I always maintain the correct amount in my system for appetite suppression.

I am currently on 3.75mg 2x per week. It’s magical.

Extra notes: calorie deficit provides the results - what this stuff does is remove the willpower required to cut in the past. It removes all dopaminergic emotional attachment to food. If you eat in calorie deficit you will lose some portion of muscle - to limit loss - you have to hit your protein and I would suggest some kind of hgh inducing peptide such as Semorelin. Of all the hgh peptides - semorelin does not increase hunger(ipamorelin, tesamorelin and cjc1295 all can increase hunger)


I am currently on no gear or trt. I would imagine you would retain more water in your muscles so I would assume you would get losses of 1-3lbs per week as opposed to the 3-5lbs per week I am losing now. But I am being aggressive - I am 6’3 268 and eating 200protein and 1750 calories per day. 20-30 of cardio per day and heavy weight 4-6 days per week.


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