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Not sure I understand Trump's movement in the polls

Yano

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^^^This is a great question. I think one of my big blind spots is that I regularly underplay the impact of Trump's juvenile behavior, particularly on independent voters that may hold the key to this election. I can't tell you how many people tell me that they wish Trump would just shut up, or they say they're going to hold their nose and vote GOP. But how many people are saying, once Harris gets in, I won't have to hear anymore from that gasbag. If that number is sufficiently high, he's cooked, and it's his own darn fault.

He's an odd bird. In some instances he has some pretty good political instincts. I thought the McDonald's gig and the garbage truck schtick was funny, but would I have recommended he spend his precious time on what I think is a stunt? Probably not, and I would have been wrong. Then other times he'll pull some stupid thing, and I'm wondering if he's a complete retard. LOL

I'm very interested to see how the actual vote results compare to the final polls, particularly in the battleground states. I'm interested to see what the final tally is in WI, MI, PA, AZ, GA, NC, NV. The poll services have significant incentives to fix the problems/inaccuracies they've had in the 2016 and 2020 elections. I just don't know if it's possible today. With so many likely registered voters having solely cell phones, and with the significant lack of participation rate in polls, how do the poll services obtain a meaningful sample? That's not a criticism of them or a claim of bias, just an inherent difficulty.
Dude , this is me. To a fucking T.

I voted for him the first time , was happy to do it. I had the Trump riding the red white n blue Abrams as my avatar and all that shit haahahah hard to believe I know.

Then he just fell apart ,, did nothing , bragged up crowds. An the lies .. his wall first big lie , You realize they only built 68 miles of new wall ? Bannon stole millions from the project and he's due in court for in in Cali this month.

The juvenile comments , being laughed at at the UN , the lies and ignorance around covid and playing it down while it killed thousands .. all due to his own self admission ,, he didnt want it to make him look bad.

I can't vote for a rapist a convicted felon that wants to take my grand daughters back to the 1700's and turn them into 2nd class citizens.

Trump is his own worst enemy , his dementia doomed his campaign.
 
Littleguy

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Dude , this is me. To a fucking T.

I voted for him the first time , was happy to do it. I had the Trump riding the red white n blue Abrams as my avatar and all that shit haahahah hard to believe I know.

Then he just fell apart ,, did nothing , bragged up crowds. An the lies .. his wall first big lie , You realize they only built 68 miles of new wall ? Bannon stole millions from the project and he's due in court for in in Cali this month.

The juvenile comments , being laughed at at the UN , the lies and ignorance around covid and playing it down while it killed thousands .. all due to his own self admission ,, he didnt want it to make him look bad.

I can't vote for a rapist a convicted felon that wants to take my grand daughters back to the 1700's and turn them into 2nd class citizens.

Trump is his own worst enemy , his dementia doomed his campaign.
How would he take your daughters back to the 1700’s and make them 2nd class citizens?
This one I MUST read
 
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What is fascinating about this election is that with so many battleground states so close, predictions could be only 1% or 2% (which is fairly close and pretty accurate) off, yet be incredibly wrong in an electoral college count. That is, if the battleground states move together one way or another because of unknown factors, predictions could look terribly wrong.

I am considering two theories 1) gen z girls being the most liberal voting block ever 2) women voting more Dem because of lingering Roe anger

I will concede that Roe was a couple of years ago, now. Maybe Roe being overturned has lost its power? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.

And gen z girls being young may not be sufficiently likely to vote. They have been voting at a surprising rate of 49%. But maybe they sit this one out? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

So interestingly enough, in an election so close there could STILL be an electoral landslide. But it requires movement in one direction across multiple states.

Another interesting possibility is that Trump could conceivably win the popular vote and lose the electoral college. If this happens the Republicans will suddenly LOSE their longstanding love of the electoral college (which has been to their benefit several times) and the Republicans will move to abolish the electoral college. Watch how Republicans do a complete about face if this happens.
 
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My weakness is not realizing the extent to which “party loyalty” determines a person’s vote, regardless of the idiocy of the party’s chosen candidate. The extent to which people will remain loyal to their “team” even when they know their team sucks, because that has always been their “team” and because, after all, it would be disloyal to switch.

Like you’ll hear me say, “I’m a Republican”. Why the hell do I even think like that. And how can I blame a democrat for feeling exactly the same way?
 
Littleguy

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My weakness is not realizing the extent to which “party loyalty” determines a person’s vote, regardless of the idiocy of the party’s chosen candidate. The extent to which people will remain loyal to their “team” even when they know their team sucks, because that has always been their “team” and because, after all, it would be disloyal to switch.
Agreed, for me I ONLY vote on policies, I could give a fuck about race, sex, or religion if you have shit, PROVEN policies then I cant roll with that.
I can think of a few Women for President that I def would vote for, this Crazy bitch is not one of them, I am writing myself in for EVERY position local and national motherfuckers!
 
Yano

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My weakness is not realizing the extent to which “party loyalty” determines a person’s vote, regardless of the idiocy of the party’s chosen candidate. The extent to which people will remain loyal to their “team” even when they know their team sucks, because that has always been their “team” and because, after all, it would be disloyal to switch.

Like you’ll hear me say, “I’m a Republican”. Why the hell do I even think like that. And how can I blame a democrat for feeling exactly the same way?
Instead of politics being a place for folks to come together and find common ground to move forward.

Trump has instilled this ,, WWE mentality where its us against them and evil vs good .. its just stupid.
 
Littleguy

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His abortion bullshit and subjugating women as he has promised. I wont vote for a sex offender to make laws for my daughters , I have more morals than that.
In other words your 1700's statement was bullshit, show me the subjugating women part besides between your own ears.
The abortion part ACTUALLY contains 2 people so you say fuck off to mens rights AND you certainly could teach your grand daughters not to fuck unprotected,
When I was growing up we did not have all these teen pregnancies and we would buy a thing called a CONDOM AND our girlfriends had Fathers that scared the shit out of us so we RESPECTED their daughters.
ALl these things the lefties cannot fathom.

And for your WALL lies here ya go...........Besides the new miles of border barriers, Trump’s administration also replaced 351 miles of primary barriers and 22 miles of secondary barriers that were smaller and dilapidated.
That is according to Politifact..

His Subjugation MUST include forcing his current wife to write a memoir as well from the basement chained to a radiator?
Ohh that is a New York Times #1 bestseller AND on the Publishers Weekly #1 sellers list.
Sooooo PLEASE dont be afraid to research for yourself instead of falling for the BULLSHIT the media feeds you.
Instead you will vote for the chick that has BLOWN her way to the top and will get us NUKED back to the stone age, which was before the 1700's bro.
CHeers Gents
 
Yano

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In other words your 1700's statement was bullshit, show me the subjugating women part besides between your own ears.
The abortion part ACTUALLY contains 2 people so you say fuck off to mens rights AND you certainly could teach your grand daughters not to fuck unprotected,
When I was growing up we did not have all these teen pregnancies and we would buy a thing called a CONDOM AND our girlfriends had Fathers that scared the shit out of us so we RESPECTED their daughters.
ALl these things the lefties cannot fathom.

And for your WALL lies here ya go...........Besides the new miles of border barriers, Trump’s administration also replaced 351 miles of primary barriers and 22 miles of secondary barriers that were smaller and dilapidated.
That is according to Politifact..

His Subjugation MUST include forcing his current wife to write a memoir as well from the basement chained to a radiator?
Ohh that is a New York Times #1 bestseller AND on the Publishers Weekly #1 sellers list.
Sooooo PLEASE dont be afraid to research for yourself instead of falling for the BULLSHIT the media feeds you.
Instead you will vote for the chick that has BLOWN her way to the top and will get us NUKED back to the stone age, which was before the 1700's bro.
CHeers Gents
dude , you need a decaff ... hahaha holy shit

they got you hooked on the MAGA heroin .. lol wow
 
Littleguy

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dude , you need a decaff ... hahaha holy shit

they got you hooked on the MAGA heroin .. lol wow
So then you agree that your ignorant post about subjugation and wall innacuracies is bullshit.
 
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