Leverage Machines are getting Out of Control...

[FLEXjs]

I remember when the Hammer Strength stuff came out late 80's early 90's it was kinda cool and allowed you to use a bit more weight due to the leverage.

One of my gyms has a whole set of "Hoist" equipment and it's just nuts. I see guys using 4 plate plus for bicep movements, 8 plates for shoulders. WTF?

First of all why do they want to design equipment that necessitates the use of so much free-weight due to leverage and why the fuck does anyone feel good about using 400 lbs for shoulder press when the weight only moves like 2 inches?

It's silly.

 

[Mike_RN]

I disagree the Hoist machines are great for bodybuilding. I don’t care what poundage I move I’m here to build muscle.

 

[Wallyd]

I like them. I think they are helpful for the older crowd especially compared to free weights.

 

[Bigtex]

I never used any machines until I retired from powerlifting. Now they are part of my training. I like Hammer Strength and like Mike, I don't care how much weight is on them as much as I do getting max time under tension.

The look pretty cool. Hammer Strength makes some selector plate loaded cable machine systems like this and I don't use them much. They just seem to react sluggish. I train everything very explosively. The straight plate leverage is much more responsive. But I have not seen or used these Hoist machines.

https://www.hoistfitness.com/collections/rpl-roc-it-plate-loaded

 

[TODAY]

As a general rule, I'm not a huge fan of any machine that intentionally reduces range of motion.

 

[tommyguns2]

I've always been a fan of the free weights, but as I've gotten older, I feel more comfortable pushing myself on the machines as opposed to free weights when I don't have a training partner.

 

[gunslinger]

I don’t care what poundage I move I’m here to build muscle.

Statements like this always blow my mind...lol

 

[gunslinger]

First of all why do they want to design equipment that necessitates the use of so much free-weight due to leverage and why the fuck does anyone feel good about using 400 lbs for shoulder press when the weight only moves like 2 inches?

It's silly.

Instagram?

 

[Mike_RN]

Statements like this always blow my mind...lol

I chased numbers for the 1st 20yrs. I never had a Bench Press but Squats and Deads were 550+. At 49yrs old I'm surviving with Bodybuilding. If I had kept at the numbers game I'd be out of the gym with injuries forever.

 

[rawdeal]

Heard around my house:

"Honey, I'm off to the gym, be back before suppertime."

"Ok ....... don't hurt yourself, again."

Some machines, and reps over 5, are how I avoid chasing Ronnie Coleman's surgery count in my dotage.

 

[BrotherIron]

I don't mind machine but I don't use many. When I use a machine, I attach a band to it for accommodating resistance. Choke some monster mini's on that Hoist machine and see if they still throw 4 plates on it.

 

[Shock]

I like them too. No matter the movement, they seem to take pressure off of my joints and concentrate it on my target muscle groups.