The problem was never the ECA stack. It worked well. The problem was guys were taking too much and then going to crazy cardio workouts like...football practice. What do you think is going to happen. It's always people over using that causes the problems with this stuff.
100%. It was the dehydration coupled with their ridiculously high dose that got them. Vasoconstriction coupled with blood thick as mud equals disaster.
Bottom line, don't be an idiot and take things in moderation. 12.5 to 25 mg a day is more than enough. Plus, if it starts fucking with your sleep, it is counterproductive.