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AlphaMale!

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Why not just donate blood? Thats how I keep my levels from going high.
I can’t donate blood or organs due a genetic mutation in my blood.
I’m actually on a national registry which prevents me from being a blood or organ donor.
I had to stop using EQ because it was raising my hematocrit level too high and I don’t have the usual option of donating blood to rectify that issue.
Also, unchecked high RBC’s will ultimately result in proportionally lower WBC’s which can compromise your immune system.
 
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Check your ferritin. When it gets to low hct drops like a stone.
Depends on blood iron from diet in my case. My ferritin is borderline low, HCT always high. Blood iron mid normal range. You can have borderline ferritin and high HCT, but if dietary iron falls, that's when anemia risk increases. I think of it like my old Carver amp. When the demand exceeded the capacitor storage, it went to line current and the lights in the room dimmed, if the existing load on the line in addition to the kettle drums from Ravel's Bolero was high, the breaker tripped. That was the day I spider webbed my sliding patio door as well from the pulsing bass. Ferritin is the capacitor, when its low, line current is blood iron, if that's low the breaker goes (anemia).
 
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I can’t donate blood or organs due a genetic mutation in my blood.
I’m actually on a national registry which prevents me from being a blood or organ donor.
I had to stop using EQ because it was raising my hematocrit level too high and I don’t have the usual option of donating blood to rectify that issue.
Also, unchecked high RBC’s will ultimately result in proportionally lower WBC’s which can compromise your immune system.
You should still be able to get a phlebotomy, either RC if avail in your area or through an infusion lab. I was blacklisted years ago by the RC for donations bc at the time if your doc said you had to donate, that would only do a phlebo, I should have never said that. My hematologist writes a script for phlebos at the local hospital. EQ is the worst for erythrocytosis. I'd be concerned with viscosity and high RBCs as well.
 
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You should still be able to get a phlebotomy, either RC if avail in your area or through an infusion lab. I was blacklisted years ago by the RC for donations bc at the time if your doc said you had to donate, that would only do a phlebo, I should have never said that. My hematologist writes a script for phlebos at the local hospital. EQ is the worst for erythrocytosis. I'd be concerned with viscosity and high RBCs as well.
Yep. I was blacklisted due to TB exposure in Afghanistan and testing false positive on skin tests afterwards. Doctor just writes a script for it if needed.
 
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You should still be able to get a phlebotomy, either RC if avail in your area or through an infusion lab. I was blacklisted years ago by the RC for donations bc at the time if your doc said you had to donate, that would only do a phlebo, I should have never said that. My hematologist writes a script for phlebos at the local hospital. EQ is the worst for erythrocytosis. I'd be concerned with viscosity and high RBCs as well.
Thanks for the advice. I’m still going to avoid EQ from now on.
I love the vascularity but it’s not worth the trouble, imo.
Also, I don’t take any iron supplements for the same reasons.
 
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Especially since a lot of us are older and also some young guys tend to run AAS high, hematocrit can tend to be high . . . .
Thanks for this thread, Glyco. What began as a good one is getting better and better. Too often we need to manage our own health care. At times we need official authorization, we often need to outmaneuver the officials.
 
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What is problematic HCT level? I’m assuming the top of the normal range on bloodwork isn’t cause for alarm.
 
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Very interesting.

I have a low iron issue and I have high H/H.
Been dealing with this for a few years now. Been really sucky time.
Trying to figure all this out. The timing of the iron infusions is important.
If I wait too long its a really shitty time period for me. If my iron gets too low Im mentally fucked.
its my kryptonite. My doc just put me on lisinopril.
Need to learn more about this so maybe I can keep my H/H within reasonable levels so I dont need phlebotomies.
 
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Wilson6

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What is problematic HCT level? I’m assuming the top of the normal range on bloodwork isn’t cause for alarm.
The problem is we really don't know what that level is relative to androgens. Androgen induced erythrocytosis has not been well studied long term or if other confounding variables (diabetes, obesity, family history, COVID, etc) can make a certain level problematic in some guys (DVT or stroke) vs others. 52% is my personal threshold, urologists sometimes say 55%. Top range of normal if you're otherwise healthy, likely low if any additional risk. HCT is the new prostate cancer. Now everyone is focused on DVT risk and HCT, there is no convincing evidence of significant risk at 52%, but most docs go into crisis mode over 50% and make shit up. In the end, as Remo Gaggi said in Casino, "look why take a chance, that's the way I feel about it."
 
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Continuing to appreciate all the bro uberscience here, continuing to agree with "Remo," whom I've never met, observing most of us here are still taking chances anyway, and .........

storing up questions to ask any licensed doctor I may audition as s(he) evaluates our pay-as-you-go partnership.
 
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What is problematic HCT level? I’m assuming the top of the normal range on bloodwork isn’t cause for alarm.
Personally, I don't call it problematic until it gets to 58, which happens to be where my TRT doctor also feels it is problematic. I pretty much hang out at 54-55 all the time. Been that way for 27 years.
 
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