Fanofiron - I took pic and I do feel a soft lump. Im using arimidex and caber as well. I will try b5. I also had a bud tell me b6 will help with prolactin. Shortz makes a good point. If I get below 12% this might not be noticible. Only one way to find out..
Hey Guys,
Need you in your input, I attached two pics. Lower chest fat or gyno. My diet is clean and I do have two cheat days. Have not been doing cardio and im on tren e (250 weekly and test e (150 weekly). If I were to guess maube 15% bf. Was freaking out thinking it was gyno.
Thanks.
Seriously, unless you also have GALACTORRHEA an "elevated prolactin level from 19-Nor AAS" means ZIPPO, because progesterogenic AAS do NOT increase progesterone OR prolactin, period.
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jim
Its basic general knowledge in bodybuilding for those of us that have use a lot steroids. That the mixing of progestins can cause gyno { hard lumps under nipples} and milky discharge { when nipple is squeezed}
....Progesterone-related gynecomastia: The issue of gynecomastia, Estrogen, and Progesterone are all extremely complex processes that are not 100% fully understood. The truth of the matter is that Progestins are, in vitro and in theory, supposed to inhibit the production of Prolactin at the pituitary and the brain. However, there is much anecdotal evidence and reports from users that Trenbolone as well as Nandrolone indeed do trigger Prolactin release from the brain. Because Trenbolone itself is a Progestin, it also acts on the Progestin receptors on breast tissue. Prolactin receptors exist on breast tissue as well, and so do Estrogen receptors. This combination of Progesterone, Prolactin, and Estrogen can create a large issue of gynecomastia in a Trenbolone user. Prolactin-related gynecomastia from 19-nor compounds is typically seen in the form of lactating nipples alongside breast tissue formation. One of several (or more than one) methods can be used to combat this issue. The first is through the use of a Prolactin-antagonist drug (also known as Dopamine agonists) such as Cabergoline or Pramipexole. These drugs act on Dopamine receptors in the body, which results in decreased Prolactin levels. The second method is to simply avoid the aromatization of other compounds into Estrogen. For example, if Testosterone is used alongside Trenbolone (and it always should be), it is advisable to keep Testosterone at a low enough dose (TRT doses) so that it will not convert into Estrogen, or if larger doses of Testosterone are to be used then an aromatase inhibitor can be run alongside it. Controlling Estrogen levels should also control Prolactin secretion from the pituitary; however it is important to note there are some users that will not respond in such a manner and will still have Prolactin increases in a low-Estrogen environment. What also occurs is that Trenbolone (or Nandrolone) act upon Progesterone receptors in breast tissue and it is through this process that Estrogen receptor sites become far more sensitive to Estrogen (and vice versa – increased Estrogen can create Prolactin receptors that possess increased sensitivity). As a result, even the most minimal levels of Estrogen or Prolactin can trigger the formation of gynecomastia or lactation. Thus, it is always advised that one run a Prolactin antagonist (such as Cabergoline or Pramipexole) or at the very least keep it on hand while using Trenbolone or any 19-nor compound.....
The only product I know that can reverse existing gyno is letrozole
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