Aspirin and viagra do not decrease RBCs but it's good that you don't have Hct in the 55% and up range to start with. Right, listen to your body. If you are over 40 and can use 2 grams of AAS without issues and you are reasonable and comfortable with your health markers then you may be OK albeit a rare case. Don't forget about your prostate, ekg and stress test as well. You don't want a coffee cake for a prostate or problematic cardiac hypertrophy and associated health issues. One thing is a bit striking in your responses. You allude to the notion that health markers for AAS users, while may be out of normal range, are normal for such users. That is a slippery slope and an area I can see becoming a rationalization zone.
in hereditary polycythemia, the increase risk for mi's results from the increased viscosity of blood flow injuring the endo cells in the arteries causing artherosclerotic plaques to form. these plaques along with increased iron in the heart result in ht failure so when your plaques embolize due to being snagged by the increased viscosity you get an mi. these people have the process of setting the stage for an mi to for begin before they are 5 according to some studies. bottom line, the pathologies are different, but an aspirin a day is good.
So you don't come off? I just read a thread where you said you "have and do use" nolva and clomid together for pct. How can I learn from your vast knowledge base and expertise if you can't keep your lies straight? How can any of us kiddy noobies trust what you say?
NOTE: Cannot continue to read the fictional personal anecdotes of a pathological liar in denial without saying my piece. It is irresponsible to allow one "reality-distorter's" viewpoint to influence those that want to rationalize away legitimate health risks. As is apparent by the dozens of thank yous to the OP, the original post was extremely helpful and this thread should NEVER have degraded into a pointless debate about AAS's safety.
Say what you want FIST, I won't respond again.
i think we go in circles lol...... get ur fucken blood work done and you will know how your body is responding to what you are putting into it.... everyone is different... we also can not speculate what the "pro's" use because each person is different.... im sure you find alot more people in the amateur levels of bodybuilding Abusing way more than pro's im sure AJ and other elite competitors on this site can confirm this... if u are worried about thickening of the blood there are ways to combat almost any side effect. Just like if you have a head ache u take something to fix it... well if you need blood thinners go to your doctor and he will fix it.... That is why most people that suffer from heart related problems usually are put on medication that thins there blood.
After all thats been said I guess I only have one thing to add. There are millions of people in the US alone who use/abuse steroids. In fact I'd say by medical standards we all "abuse" them. Anything over TRT dose is technically abuse. That being said, you would expect people, especially pros would be dropping left and right. Yet this is not the case at all. Instead we hear about the odd case now and then where someone was taking far beyond what is considered "normal" use even by our standards, and they had issues. This is really no different than any other meds.
Have per-existing health problems or bad genetics? Large doses of anabolics may not be for you. Its more of a common sense thing I think. Look at ephedra. You had a hand full of dipshits who took 100mg or more and then did a football game and their hearts blew up. So now ephed is the worst thing ever right? If someone could eat enough protein powder to make him shit himself to death you can bet your ass they would ban protein tomorrow or at least try to. It all comes down to common sense. Take mega doses for years you are more likely to have issues than if you do sane cycles.
As for AAS being safe. Let me put it this way. I know people who do 5-10 times the therapeutic dose of AAS for years with zero health issues. Name me an OTC med that you could take 5-10 times the therapeutic dose for weeks on end and live. Try that shit with Nyquil or Tylenol sometime.
Most of your guys using for years are not much over 40 either. your not gona get away with high dose cycling the older you get.
I'm not talking about most users who think what they use is high, i'm talking about 2grams of test EW with at least another gram of orals/other aas in there as well. (some use these doses continuously without a break to give the body a rest)
cardiac remodeling is a real factor with high continuous use.
Don't kid yourselves here your not immortal.
Were talking about a thickening of the blood which will absolutely be corrected by taking these things.As for everything else you've mentioned,like prostate problems,etc,thats why its so important to monitor your blood tests results as I and everyone else has been saying.By doing this you will always be ahead of these said problems and can change things accordingly.Whether it be just from diet and exercise or from taking other meds to fight these things or even lowering your doses of gear or completely coming off.Thats the whole point to my reply.The key is to watch these things and take corrective actions BEFORE they become an issue.
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