My experience this far, over dosed at first with 600mcg and felt 16 hrs of nausea... terrible. Did proper research and dialed down to 200mcg and gradually went up to currently 1 mg. I'm an 98% Irish according to 23 and Me, I'm a white boy, probably should live subtteranean. Now 3 weeks in I'm developing a nice tan with freckles but that's nothing new to me. Feeling good, at first was getting random erections, middle of the night sort of thing. Now that my tolerance is up I'm no longer experiencing the hardons. Problem is if you look at dosing MT2 and PT141 alone the protocols are a little different. Trying to figure out how to dose the hard on? Calling Tougholdman...he knows his stuff.
The nausea is so bad for me I'm half of a completely even going with small 100 to 200 mg doses. Really sucks because I love the way PT 141 and to a lower degree mt2 works.
Now depending on what you're wanting are you looking for the tan or are you looking for the spontaneous and better erections?
Even though they do work similar pt141 is going to be a lot better for you as far as getting erections ago because it works in the cortex of the brain that is a little different than mt2
PT-141 Works in the hypothalamus (specifically the medial preoptic area) Activates melanocortin receptors (MC4R) This area controls sexual arousal signaling
MT2 Also works in the hypothalamus (same general area) but hits more melanocortin receptors (MC1R, MC3R, MC4R, MC5R) so with that said it can still cause erections but it is more geared towards tanning or increasing active melanin but the trade-off is it is not going to affect erections to the degree that PT 141 can do.
My opinion if you're wanting the tan does alternate days one day of mt2 one day of PT 141 and see what the effect is on that.
Keeping in mind PT 141 Half-Life is 2 to 3 hours and spontaneous erections somewhere around 6 to 8 hours maybe a little bit longer. We're mt2 has a half life 24 to 36 hours and spontaneous erections one to two days.
So in my opinion if you do a shot of empty too you're going to have that in your system for roughly 2 days, on the second day to PT 141 which is good for one day but will increase the mc4r so you'll have more simulation for erections. And then the next day go back to mt2 and just keep the cycle going back and forth.
I used to love empty too it gave me a great tan and all the side effects were amazing except for the nausea. I can do 100 micrograms of either one of those now and will be sick for hours and hours. It sucks because it feels natural rather than forced erections from pills or shots, I should say trimix shots
