X2, I wouldn't use just winny without at least a test base (test prop for example).
I can't say I've ever noticed too much joint pain....maybe consider a growth hormone releasing peptide to use in conjunction with the winny to see if that helps.
Also have good ole glucosamine/chondroitin to fall back on as an additional supplement. It's always helped me short term.
I posted this home remedy along time ago...I have two bro's who swear by it!
Joint Pain Remedies – Vinegar and Honey Home Remedy
I know it sound crazy, 8-} but give it a try if the pain gets very bad...better than 'nsaids' IMO.
Winny always did a number on my joints...a couple of times I had to drop it all together.
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