by "alone" do you mean ALONE or alone with a test base? i would never run anything again without a test base. didnt know any better back when i did. live and learn... anyways, it really depends on the person. i know guys that say they didnt experience any joint pain and guys that say they wont take it anymore because of it. me personally, it was noticeable but nothing i couldnt live with
I've been trying Super Cissus from USP labs... Works great for me! Better than G and C ever did at least... I've got a friend who does shots of olive oil as an anti-inflammatory too. Ever hear of that one?
Same here. Ran it for two weeks at 50mgs/day and by day 14 couldn't screw the top off of a water jug without my elbows, wrists, and fingers screaming at me. Dropped it, never to run it again. Have a buddy who can run it at 100mgs with no joint pain and great strength gains. To each his own.