cycle #5 need help with fine tuning

[4g63mark]

I'm a few days away from starting PCT on cycle #5 . I'm looking for a way of fine tuning my cycles to avoid unwanted results. First of all, here was my cycle:

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500
Weeks 1-12 EQ @ 400
Weeks 6-12 Masteron prop @ 200
Week 13 Masteron prop @ 400
Weeks 1- The end of PCT Arimidex @ .5 /day

*My reason for keeping the EQ at only 12 weeks was a timing issue with my personal life....... It's complicated. LOL.*

My gains were most impressive this time than any other cycle thanks to the Masteron. It was my first time running anything that was a DHT, and I look forward to keeping it in all my cycles from now on. This was my second cycle with EQ and just as advertised, it kicked in at week 8 just as noticeable as Test E kicked in at week 4.

The problem I need to address is my VERY noticeable moon face and bloat from the Test E water retention. I'm also sensitive to estrogen sides. If I could back the Test completely out of the equation without estrogen conversion problems I would. I don't need the size that Test gives me. I just want to stay looking not bloated during my cycles. I'm 5'10 210 pounds and my frame is small. So I already look too heavy for my frame.

What can I do to remedy this problem? Is sust or another form of test less likely to bloat me up? How low can I take the Test before I run into estrogen conversion problems. I keep Cialis on hand for ED.

Any help from experienced guys is welcomed and much appreciated.

 

[Mike_RN]

500mg of Test is rather low to be experiencing "bloating" as severe as you describe. You might have an allergy to one of the solvents or carriers in your gear. That much Masteron should have kept you hard and dry regardless. Try NPP instead of EQ for a 12wk'er. Neither Deca nor EQ are worth much in less than 15wk cycles IMO.

 

[IronCore]

whats your Bf%?

 

[Docd187123]

Why are you bumping the mast from 200mg to 400mg for the final week of your cycle?

 

[IronCore]

Why are you bumping the mast from 200mg to 400mg for the final week of your cycle?

I had that same question but I just figured he wanted to finish off the bottle...

 

[Docd187123]

I had that same question but I just figured he wanted to finish off the bottle...

Makes sense lol. I hate leaving a ml or several left until next cycle.

 

[HDH]

If the unwanted results are the bloat, it goes away with the end of the cycle. It is low test but some do retain a good bit of water. The mast should have helped with it as Mike stated. There are other factors like BF% as IC stated and diet.

I'm not sure what the last line of the cycle means- Weeks 1- The end of PCT Arimidex @ .5 /day I'm assuming you are running start to finish.

If you ran dex through the cycle, water should have been at a minimum with the compounds.

Just an observation, all 3 of your compounds are timed differently to clear your system. The Mast will clear before the Test and the Test will clear before the EQ.

The mast could have went an extra week for a steady 200mgEW but the EQ wouldn't have cleared in that time.

Perhaps running 400mg Test EW to stretch the time to clear with the EQ and starting the Mast a little later would have been optimal.

What does your PCT look like?

H

 

[Fanofiron]

Have u had labs to see where your estrogen /e2 is? Might not be enough adex. It should be if legit but we also all respond differently to ai, and aas in general. So while .5mg Ed might be a enough for many....might not be enough for u!

As others mentioned BF and diet also play a huge role in bloat but estrogen is the biggest culprit.

Sadly I've found unless u have labs to prove in black and white your ai is legit and u are using the correct dosage for the dosage of test.....it's all speculation at best.

If u think mast is good and u respond well the dht....wait until u try tren

What's the pct look like?

 

[Chirality]

Fan of Iron is right. 500mg of test is a low-ish to be experiencing sides from estradiol. Also, masteron itself helps to mitigate the effects of, and the conversion rate to estradiol. Combined with .5 mg qd of anastrozole, you are unlikely to see high estradiol levels. Are you experiencing any other issues besides moon face? Sounds like you should get some blood work, because this is a giant guessing game otherwise. Bad arimidex, masteron that is not actually masteron, or you could just have consumed a lot of sodium lately and not realized it. Too many unknowns.

 

[4g63mark]

500mg of Test is rather low to be experiencing "bloating" as severe as you describe. You might have an allergy to one of the solvents or carriers in your gear. That much Masteron should have kept you hard and dry regardless. Try NPP instead of EQ for a 12wk'er. Neither Deca nor EQ are worth much in less than 15wk cycles IMO.

Yeah, I intended to make it go 16 weeks. That's why I included that explanation for cutting it short.

 

[4g63mark]

Why are you bumping the mast from 200mg to 400mg for the final week of your cycle?

To get that extra bit of hardness and strength right before the other stuff starts to wear off.

 

[4g63mark]

If the unwanted results are the bloat, it goes away with the end of the cycle. It is low test but some do retain a good bit of water. The mast should have helped with it as Mike stated. There are other factors like BF% as IC stated and diet.

I'm not sure what the last line of the cycle means- Weeks 1- The end of PCT Arimidex @ .5 /day I'm assuming you are running start to finish.

If you ran dex through the cycle, water should have been at a minimum with the compounds.

Just an observation, all 3 of your compounds are timed differently to clear your system. The Mast will clear before the Test and the Test will clear before the EQ.

The mast could have went an extra week for a steady 200mgEW but the EQ wouldn't have cleared in that time.

Perhaps running 400mg Test EW to stretch the time to clear with the EQ and starting the Mast a little later would have been optimal.

What does your PCT look like?

H

Yes I did time them that way to transition off. I don't like the idea of running test an extra 2 weeks past the EQ. So I'll probably do like you suggested with the mast on the next one.

With PCT I'll continue running arimidex as planned till the end of PCT along with Clomid, Nolvadex, and HCG