Trump Administration Policy Changes like and Dislike Thread

[tommyguns2]

What I don’t like about this “dealing” (bullying), is that the US cabal command, which Trump is not - he’s simply the designated face / mouthpiece of, has strongarmed (extorted) Kiev into agreeing to US personal business interests (mineral deal and whatever other controlling interests such as accepting a Blackrock monopoly on the rebuild of Ukraine, etc) by temporarily having halted intel, monetary and military aid. So…. the US gets its forced hegemonic way and Kiev at least for a temporary phase of time is restored with the only thing that helped it survive beyond one week from the inception of Russia’s entry into Ukraine back in ‘22.
Meanwhile, though it wants to, hopes to more lightly threaten Russia into its single sided interests - which won’t be so easy, it, US, demonstrates in full view of the world that it is the only thing that has enabled this war to last all these years - Ukraine has simply been a weak and used proxy victim to inflict as much harm physically, economically against Russia as possible. The US to this point has thus far not acknowledged Russia’s clearly defined terms: Moscow has previously indicated that any temporary ceasefire deal is unacceptable, arguing it would only allow Kiev to regroup and rearm. Putin stated in January that Russia is seeking a long-term peace based on respect and the legitimate interests of all people living in the region. Ukraine must be demilitarized, and must agree to neutrality, avoiding any joining of NATO. All the territories it’s captured remain recognized as Russia’s.

I think there is a lot of fault to go around in this situation. The US absolutely handled this poorly. We should not have been making noise about Ukraine possibly joining NATO. The Biden should not have given Putin the green light to invade, as long as it's not "too big of an incursion." WTH.

Ukraine has surprised everyone with how bravely they've fought, and how they've pulled Putin's pants down in front of the entire world. The US has had a front row seat to study Russian tactics, logistics, communications, inventory, etc. But the last year as the war has settled into a bloody, expensive stalemate, they've taken a position that guaranteed further bloodshed without any real possibility of victory. I'm not sure I understand that. Sure, Zelensky was getting a blank check from Biden, but Ukraine is running out of fighting age men. Then what? That's not a criticism of Ukraine's bravery, courage, etc., it's simply an objective third-party analysis. Ukraine needs to broker a deal that minimizes their losses (they've lost the Donbass (sp?) region, but I don't think getting that back is in the cards).

Russia is a big loser in this whole thing. Their military was feared previously, not so much any more. Their economy is hurting, they poor demographic condition has gotten even worse, and they'll continue their brain drain, as those young Russians that can leave will do so. Very sad. Putin wanted to "get the band back together", and it has backfired. He likely won't go off into the sunset. Rather, he will die in office, by health issues or getting killed by a political opponent (probably not soon). He's weakened, and there are those in Russia who might be interested in changing direction. Putin is looking over his shoulder 24/7.
Europe has lost, again. This conflict has created a rift in NATO, and it's been a clarifying rift. Europe has never liked the US, they think we're a bunch of rednecks. US has never liked Europe, we think they're a bunch of pussies. Maybe we're both correct. I don't know. But I do know that NATO has subsidized European welfare states by allowing them to move monies that otherwise would have been allocated to defense to social welfare programs. That seemed to work pretty well for 50 years, but such social welfare programs incentive bad demographics. No one is around to do the work, and those who are around would rather get benefits that do the hourly stuff. So Europe brought in the barbarians to do the work they weren't willing to do, and now they're realizing the social welfare state only works within a homogeneous culture which they no longer have.

The old world order (for better or worse) is no more. Without US keeping the peace, there will not be peace. But as long as we don't get involved, maybe we shouldn't care. Just as a fellow human being I do care, but mankind has been destroying each other for 10,000 years. Not much has changed, except that we're more efficient at it today.

 

[testboner]

Trump Kennedy Center Cam

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here ya go

The post (I shared) image is a visual statement expressing the change of execs / directors of the Kennedy Center that Trump has addressed. It’s another one of the “anti-woke” narratives.
And u destined this as a general rule: The establishment not only controls narrative - but also the counter narrative. All is extraordinarily contrived / manipulated.

 

[testboner]

I think there is a lot of fault to go around in this situation. The US absolutely handled this poorly. We should not have been making noise about Ukraine possibly joining NATO. The Biden should not have given Putin the green light to invade, as long as it's not "too big of an incursion." WTH.

Ukraine has surprised everyone with how bravely they've fought, and how they've pulled Putin's pants down in front of the entire world. The US has had a front row seat to study Russian tactics, logistics, communications, inventory, etc. But the last year as the war has settled into a bloody, expensive stalemate, they've taken a position that guaranteed further bloodshed without any real possibility of victory. I'm not sure I understand that. Sure, Zelensky was getting a blank check from Biden, but Ukraine is running out of fighting age men. Then what? That's not a criticism of Ukraine's bravery, courage, etc., it's simply an objective third-party analysis. Ukraine needs to broker a deal that minimizes their losses (they've lost the Donbass (sp?) region, but I don't think getting that back is in the cards).

Russia is a big loser in this whole thing. Their military was feared previously, not so much any more. Their economy is hurting, they poor demographic condition has gotten even worse, and they'll continue their brain drain, as those young Russians that can leave will do so. Very sad. Putin wanted to "get the band back together", and it has backfired. He likely won't go off into the sunset. Rather, he will die in office, by health issues or getting killed by a political opponent (probably not soon). He's weakened, and there are those in Russia who might be interested in changing direction. Putin is looking over his shoulder 24/7.
Europe has lost, again. This conflict has created a rift in NATO, and it's been a clarifying rift. Europe has never liked the US, they think we're a bunch of rednecks. US has never liked Europe, we think they're a bunch of pussies. Maybe we're both correct. I don't know. But I do know that NATO has subsidized European welfare states by allowing them to move monies that otherwise would have been allocated to defense to social welfare programs. That seemed to work pretty well for 50 years, but such social welfare programs incentive bad demographics. No one is around to do the work, and those who are around would rather get benefits that do the hourly stuff. So Europe brought in the barbarians to do the work they weren't willing to do, and now they're realizing the social welfare state only works within a homogeneous culture which they no longer have.

The old world order (for better or worse) is no more. Without US keeping the peace, there will not be peace. But as long as we don't get involved, maybe we shouldn't care. Just as a fellow human being I do care, but mankind has been destroying each other for 10,000 years. Not much has changed, except that we're more efficient at it today.

Wow, that’s FULL of all the MSM narratives.
Yes, the Ukrainian military are strong combatants - no argument there. But the fact is irrefutable that Russia would have finished their tasks there within one week had the US / NATO alliance not propped them up. I think it’s more relevant for those of your perspective about Russia’s military capabilities to acknowledge they’ve in fact defeated the collective West’s efforts to defeat Russia using Ukraine as their (the US) proxy. I don’t believe it’s an exaggeration to say that Ukrainian soldiers are by and large “tougher” than the avg American soldier - and given that, along with how much US / NATO armament they’ve been flooded with and yet still fail to defeat Russia’s less than full on military concentrated effort in Ukraine, speaks volumes about Russia’s combat ability.
The West’s efforts failed to defeat Russia in Ukraine - they cannot achieve a military defeat there. Only now are they more publically being forced to acknowledge that reality.
So far as being weakened - with the growing strength of alliances created with BRICS, and their stronger than ever bond with China (in particular) and others - Russia has had / is having a significant weakening effect on US unipolar power / hegemony. Russia has altered the global power dynamics - the West is no longer an undisputed and unchallenged empire super power.
Russia has succeeded.

 

[Massive G]

Wow, that’s FULL of all the MSM narratives.
Yes, the Ukrainian military are strong combatants - no argument there. But the fact is irrefutable that Russia would have finished their tasks there within one week had the US / NATO alliance not propped them up. I think it’s more relevant for those of your perspective about Russia’s military capabilities to acknowledge they’ve in fact defeated the collective West’s efforts to defeat Russia using Ukraine as their (the US) proxy. I don’t believe it’s an exaggeration to say that Ukrainian soldiers are by and large “tougher” than the avg American soldier - and given that, along with how much US / NATO armament they’ve been flooded with and yet still fail to defeat Russia’s less than full on military concentrated effort in Ukraine, speaks volumes about Russia’s combat ability.
The West’s efforts failed to defeat Russia in Ukraine - they cannot achieve a military defeat there. Only now are they more publically being forced to acknowledge that reality.
So far as being weakened - with the growing strength of alliances created with BRICS, and their stronger than ever bond with China (in particular) and others - Russia has had / is having a significant weakening effect on US unipolar power / hegemony. Russia has altered the global power dynamics - the West is no longer an undisputed and unchallenged empire super power.
Russia has succeeded.

Thanks to Biden and the military industrial complex.
A Russian/Chinese alliance could be a new world order. All over fucking outdated US model T cold war policy.

 

[testboner]

Thanks to Biden and the military industrial complex.
A Russian/Chinese alliance could be a new world order. All over fucking outdated US model T cold war policy.

Very possible, if not most likely as it’s appearing / shaping up.

 

[BD Cool]

Every time I check out this thread I get depressed. Then I head over to the "Pictures of chic's you know!!!, ex-g/f,g/f.,wife,ex-wife,sis,friend,etc." thread and my day instantly improves.

 

[Massive G]

Every time I check out this thread I get depressed. Then I head over to the "Pictures of chic's you know!!!, ex-g/f,g/f.,wife,ex-wife,sis,friend,etc." thread and my day instantly improves.

It's not too late to turn this thread around.

 

[tommyguns2]

Wow, that’s FULL of all the MSM narratives.
Yes, the Ukrainian military are strong combatants - no argument there. But the fact is irrefutable that Russia would have finished their tasks there within one week had the US / NATO alliance not propped them up. I think it’s more relevant for those of your perspective about Russia’s military capabilities to acknowledge they’ve in fact defeated the collective West’s efforts to defeat Russia using Ukraine as their (the US) proxy. I don’t believe it’s an exaggeration to say that Ukrainian soldiers are by and large “tougher” than the avg American soldier - and given that, along with how much US / NATO armament they’ve been flooded with and yet still fail to defeat Russia’s less than full on military concentrated effort in Ukraine, speaks volumes about Russia’s combat ability.
The West’s efforts failed to defeat Russia in Ukraine - they cannot achieve a military defeat there. Only now are they more publically being forced to acknowledge that reality.
So far as being weakened - with the growing strength of alliances created with BRICS, and their stronger than ever bond with China (in particular) and others - Russia has had / is having a significant weakening effect on US unipolar power / hegemony. Russia has altered the global power dynamics - the West is no longer an undisputed and unchallenged empire super power.
Russia has succeeded.

I have to disagree with you here, but I do appreciate your point of view. The US gave Ukraine equipment, but Ukraine is/was limited in its expertise in using the equipment they received. And the best equipment was NOT provided to Ukraine, for good reasons. We didn't want Russia getting their hands on any of it. Russia hasn't defeated anyone. It's fought Ukraine to a standstill. Absolutely nothing to be proud of. Russia succeeded in showing the entire world what is can't do.

A conventional conflict with Russia and the west would include high tech air power, and Russia's air defenses are no better than Iran's. Israel had no problem taking those out without any casualties. Russia would be in deep shit, and would have to resort to nuclear retaliation, which is nothing to scoff at, but they have not shown themselves an effective conventional fighting force.

And there is an argument to be made that Russia's complete faceplant in Ukraine is a big reason China did not go after Taiwan when they had the chance under feckless Biden. Once China saw how poor Russia's execution was, CCP leadership began to doubt their military capabilities. After all, everyone up and down the line of military leadership in Russia and China lies. Therefore, just what are China's capabilities? I don't think they wanted to find out the hard way with Taiwan. Taiwan has better equipment than what Ukraine got, and they are fully trained on what they have. Like Ukraine, they'd be fighting for their own homes, and thus would be a tough fight.

 

[fasttwitch]

Some little runt who peeled potatoes in the military while better men risked all, has now become a mighty keyboard warrior!

 

[fasttwitch]

Some little runt who peeled potatoes in the military while better men risked all, has now become a mighty keyboard warrior!

His wife appreciates me though.

 

[Littleguy]

Exactly BOTH sides manipulate the narrative to suit their needs and sometimes it changes day to day.
Sickening really as it IS working to divide us as a nation/society.

The post (I shared) image is a visual statement expressing the change of execs / directors of the Kennedy Center that Trump has addressed. It’s another one of the “anti-woke” narratives.
And u destined this as a general rule: The establishment not only controls narrative - but also the counter narrative. All is extraordinarily contrived / manipulated.

 

[testboner]

I have to disagree with you here, but I do appreciate your point of view. The US gave Ukraine equipment, but Ukraine is/was limited in its expertise in using the equipment they received. And the best equipment was NOT provided to Ukraine, for good reasons. We didn't want Russia getting their hands on any of it. Russia hasn't defeated anyone. It's fought Ukraine to a standstill. Absolutely nothing to be proud of. Russia succeeded in showing the entire world what is can't do.

A conventional conflict with Russia and the west would include high tech air power, and Russia's air defenses are no better than Iran's. Israel had no problem taking those out without any casualties. Russia would be in deep shit, and would have to resort to nuclear retaliation, which is nothing to scoff at, but they have not shown themselves an effective conventional fighting force.

And there is an argument to be made that Russia's complete faceplant in Ukraine is a big reason China did not go after Taiwan when they had the chance under feckless Biden. Once China saw how poor Russia's execution was, CCP leadership began to doubt their military capabilities. After all, everyone up and down the line of military leadership in Russia and China lies. Therefore, just what are China's capabilities? I don't think they wanted to find out the hard way with Taiwan. Taiwan has better equipment than what Ukraine got, and they are fully trained on what they have. Like Ukraine, they'd be fighting for their own homes, and thus would be a tough fight.

Much of the armament that the West provided cannot function outside of direct Western personnel involvement. The West didn’t just send Ukraine stuff and say “here you go, good luck” - they have been directly involved.
I understand the indoctrinated urge / compulsion to aggrandize US military competence - but it’s not as you imagine it as being. The US is actually quite weak in combat scenarios. Really haven’t outright “won” any wars for many many years, particularly against any formidable designated “enemy” its attacked.
Russia’s proven itself to be quite impressive actually. They’ve enacted no formal wartime declaration, haven’t utilized their best weapons, and only did the one draft of 300,000 (I believe it was) early at the inception of their “special military operation.”
I’m confident that all would be quite impressed by Russia in the implementation of an actual full on war declaration.