Covid Vaccine

[hawkeye]

This could be really interesting with the new mandate to have companies with 100 or more employees requiring mandatory vaccinations. I think the shit will hit the fan on this. In my state, the governor has already been outspoken on the new mandate. My organization has already put out that vaccinations will be required to work with you being required to have the first vaccination by October 1, and by November 1 if you are not compliant, you are offered to resign or be terminated.

I work in a hospital system, and while I took the vaccination, I am against mandating people to be required to be vaccinated to work. I still think there should be a choice in the matter. This was bolstered by the fact, my administrator took the vaccine, but 3 weeks ago became fairly ill and tested positive for COVID. I think there has been a bit of a misconception that if you receive the vaccine you are bulletproof. Nope. You can still contract it, spread it and even by asymptomatic. There just is no right answer.

That being said, I disagree any time the government inserts themselves in a person's personal choice. I suppose it is similar to my take on abortion (opening a can of worms). I personally believe that life is a gift and a wonderful thing, BUT who am I to tell another individual what to do with their body. There are so many scenarios such as rape, incest and etc. Therefore, personally I would be pro-life, but I am pro-choice based upon what I have expressed above. Same mindset follows the vaccination for COVID. Yes, I received the vaccine, but I don't believe others should be forced to do it because the government says so.

Maybe I would be more receptive if we had more evidence based information or that the vaccine had been tested and proven more, but regardless, this could get really interesting. What are you guys' thoughts on this?

 

[ValeTudo8080]

I feel if they just called it the COVID 19 flu shot instead of lying and calling it a vaccine the people might feel better about it.

A true vaccine will provide immunity and this "vaccine " doesn't seem to provide that.

I haven't had the shot and pretty sure I had Covid last year.......so I don't see the point of getting vaxxed but might have to cave to the pressure.

I had a flu shot a few years ago and wasn't a terrible experience but I see no point for me to get a covid vax now.

 

[hawkeye]

I feel if they just called it the COVID 19 flu shot instead of lying and calling it a vaccine the people might feel better about it.

A true vaccine will provide immunity and this "vaccine " doesn't seem to provide that.

I haven't had the shot and pretty sure I had Covid last year.......so I don't see the point of getting vaxxed but might have to cave to the pressure.

I had a flu shot a few years ago and wasn't a terrible experience but I see no point for me to get a covid vax now.

It's very strange how this new strain of it is hitting all age groups and demographics. Many are coming in with stomach flu like symptoms (vomiting and etc), but I would say overall the severity seems to be less or extreme. But it seems the hospitalization rates are rising daily. I still think that there are certain groups such as immunocompromised, geriatric and pre-existing conditions that are the highest at risk, but it seems now no age or demographic is exempt.

While hospitalizations continue to rise, at least overall, the death rate has not risen and the severity of illness seems to be less in the younger groups. Although, I've noticed the racket with cause of death that many conspiracy theorists have spoken of. Patients with pre-existing conditions or etc will get cause of death as COVID when in reality that it was only a contributing factor. Why? Federal funding. Sucks that organizations are profiting off this crap and it only perpetuates the fear mongering.

I did read that often the second round of diseases/viruses often are mutated and more deadly than the first go around, but who knows. Can't believe much you read or hear these days.

 

[JackD]

I’m thinking before the year is up a new resistant super virus is set to take hold.

I am surprised the government went on record for the vaccine. I don’t see that holding up. As you all know I’m not against the vaccine. I really want everything to start getting back to normal with business. As our Admin said 6 months ago, I’m doing my part to get back to life.

 

[ceo]

I feel if they just called it the COVID 19 flu shot instead of lying and calling it a vaccine the people might feel better about it.

A true vaccine will provide immunity and this "vaccine " doesn't seem to provide that.

I haven't had the shot and pretty sure I had Covid last year.......so I don't see the point of getting vaxxed but might have to cave to the pressure.

I had a flu shot a few years ago and wasn't a terrible experience but I see no point for me to get a covid vax now.

Go online to cvs website and make an appointment to get tested for the antibodies. Then you'll know if you had covid.

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[Swiper]

I think as time goes everybody is going to get Covid whether you’re vaccinated or not. natural immunity will be the way this thing virus ends.

I find it interesting yet confusing how the Biden administration is mandating all these vaccines for private workers, federal government, businesses and all these people yet the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants pouring over the border get no mandate and the tens of thousands of Afghan refugees also don’t get the vaccine mandate either. those people are being distributed all over the country. you would think they would mandate it for them knowing they’ll be traveling all over the US.
i’m not for mandates but that seems weird to me. I don’t understand their logic.

 

[HDH]

It should be clear to any intelligent human being that the only true option is a safe and well tested vaccination and wearing a mask indoors.

I'm sick of it all as well, but the solution has never been more clear.

I couldn't disagree more, take a read-

My covid research | Body Building Forum - The Iron Den

There will NEVER be a normal. Israel is getting prepped for the 4th shot.

 

[HDH]

I feel if they just called it the COVID 19 flu shot instead of lying and calling it a vaccine the people might feel better about it.

A true vaccine will provide immunity and this "vaccine " doesn't seem to provide that.

I haven't had the shot and pretty sure I had Covid last year.......so I don't see the point of getting vaxxed but might have to cave to the pressure.

I had a flu shot a few years ago and wasn't a terrible experience but I see no point for me to get a covid vax now.

Funny you should say it like that. I've been thinking the same.

As of Sept 1st, the cdc has changed the definitions of vaccine and vaccination to fit the "FLU SHOTS" that really don't work.

For fucks sake, what will it take for the world to wake up?

According to the CDC, vaccine will “stimulate the body’s immune response” rather than “produce immunity.” Vaccination went from “produce immunity” to “produce protection.”

Of course, if the definition doesn't fit, change the definition. The goal posts have been and will continue to move on everything, not just the covid.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

 

[HDH]

They are trying to do the same thing to ivermectin as they did to hydroxychloroquine, here is rolling stone magazine getting caught lying about it. The source was from a doctor that didn't work there-

""The rise in people using ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug usually reserved for deworming horses or livestock, as a treatment or preventative for covid-19 has emergency rooms “so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting” access to health facilities, an emergency room doctor in Oklahoma said.""

'Rolling Stone' Caught Peddling Fake News About Ivermectin 'Horse Dewormer' Overdoses Overwhelming ERs – PJ Media

 

[HDH]

 

[HDH]

Damn, if these folks aren't for reeeeaaal tyrants. Everyone except the govt...

WASHINGON, DC – This past Wednesday, Washington D.C Mayor Muriel Bowser issued a mask mandate that requires anyone three and older to wear a mask both indoors and outdoors, any time leaving home, and anytime there will be prolonged contact with another person.

D.C. mask mandate exempts lawmakers and government employees (lawenforcementtoday.com)

 

[testboner]

This could be really interesting with the new mandate to have companies with 100 or more employees requiring mandatory vaccinations. I think the shit will hit the fan on this. In my state, the governor has already been outspoken on the new mandate. My organization has already put out that vaccinations will be required to work with you being required to have the first vaccination by October 1, and by November 1 if you are not compliant, you are offered to resign or be terminated.

I work in a hospital system, and while I took the vaccination, I am against mandating people to be required to be vaccinated to work. I still think there should be a choice in the matter. This was bolstered by the fact, my administrator took the vaccine, but 3 weeks ago became fairly ill and tested positive for COVID. I think there has been a bit of a misconception that if you receive the vaccine you are bulletproof. Nope. You can still contract it, spread it and even by asymptomatic. There just is no right answer.

That being said, I disagree any time the government inserts themselves in a person's personal choice. I suppose it is similar to my take on abortion (opening a can of worms). I personally believe that life is a gift and a wonderful thing, BUT who am I to tell another individual what to do with their body. There are so many scenarios such as rape, incest and etc. Therefore, personally I would be pro-life, but I am pro-choice based upon what I have expressed above. Same mindset follows the vaccination for COVID. Yes, I received the vaccine, but I don't believe others should be forced to do it because the government says so.

Maybe I would be more receptive if we had more evidence based information or that the vaccine had been tested and proven more, but regardless, this could get really interesting. What are you guys' thoughts on this?

The best vax is getting sick and recovering. Nature. Hmm….. what a concept. Immune systems are a conspiracy theory now.