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Corona Virus. How much of a threat is it?

Jin

Jin

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Jin, I think you're wrong, but let's just wait and see. On tax day (4/15), we'll be at the explosion point you're talking about. Let's revisit it then and see where we're at. If you're right and I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Will you do the same?

In my area, everything is shut down. Bars, restaurants, churches, barber shops. They don't want you going to work, and if so the employer is supposed to be taking everyone's temperature. (I've opted for the anal thermometer!!) Not sure what else could be done. As it is right now, we've completely crashed the local economy.

Oh wait, a cheap, old, well-tested, safe anti-malaria drug appears to be extremely effective in treating the virus. Maybe we should be handing those out at the bars and restaurants instead and save the economy from melting down. Of course, it would be more difficult to throw Trump out of office if the economy is in decent shape.

Admit I’m wrong?

Hell, I HOPE you’re right!!!

I’d be glad to be way off base about all this:)
 
Mike_RN

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Aug 13, 2013
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Just an update from Mexico. Everything is open, 1/2 the usual tourists are gone though. It’s gorgeous weather and booze is plentiful. Funny thing is that all the 70-80yr olds with timeshares are staying here because they feel safer. Almost every other owner at our place in Playa is in there mis 60s on up and they aren’t gonna leave until forced.

As for hospitals at home in NJ, we have been screening visitors and limiting them to 2 in areas with lower risk. Nobody is allowed in our nursing homes and nobody but the patients are being allowed in procedural units (OR where wife works, PACU where I am). They have cancelled all non-emergent surgeries and are asking folks with plenty of Paid Time Off to stay home in those areas.

We're flying home into Philly on Saturday so I’ll update how they’re treating travelers from current Level3** countries (** reconsider travel)
 
BovaJP

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Thanks @Mike_RN I was wondering how Mexico was. We are suppose to go 4/30-5/9, but may have to reschedule.
 
JackD

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So to give an update on my end, the hospital on my end just started screening people by asking them if they feel okay. That’s it, nothing more.

This place also is not reporting any cases, which I found out that each of the 5 hospitals have 2-3 patients in critical condition. I feel bad for those that are there.

People that work here are starting to discriminate against people by leaving masks on desks and lockers when people are just tired and don’t feel the best.

I started thinking that maybe this virus mutates and that’s why some are really bad and some are
 
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2ez

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Feb 25, 2012
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I took the day off. Yesterday was one of the most stressful since this Virus hit. Why do you ask...well good question:

1. in Orthopedics...I will care for up to 6 patients. Our Ortho floor is now a Covid 19, floor since there is no more elective surgeries for now. So we get 3 covid 19 patients max. we have a buddy system. we cohort everything. if a med is due at 9am, another at 11am......everything is rescheduled to minimize our contract. so either I push everything to 9am or 11am or go in at 10am. the idea is to go in twice during a 12 hour shift. now this didn't happen but it is the goal. after suiting up, my buddy stands at the door in the event I or the patient needs anything that I forgot or a new request....a blanket, pitcher of ice....etc by lunch time we ran out of face shields. they gave us goggles. the problem is because of the face shield, n95 face mask are not necessary. the n95 face mask protects against spreading….like the face shield. so after 12pm, we used goggles with surgical mask. very very little protection if any at all since the surgical mask do not prevent spreading.

2. 1 of my 3 patients is doing well. 52yrs old male. unfortunately, his wife is intubated in ICU and doing poorly. she has asthma in her history. they have 3 young kids. the wife is a nurse that refused intubation initially, but then she had no choice. most of his day was spent crying for his wife and the kids. he states doctors are not telling him anything on his wife. no updates. I spoke with his MD and explained his concerns so hopefully he will get an update by today. he is scheduled to go home to self quarantine to make room for other patients. so if you are Covid 19 positive, but stable...you will go home to self quarantine. Please note, there are some that have returned because of returning fevers.

3. by 10am another Pt on the floor had to be intubated and rushed to an ICU floor. at the end of the shift, another Pt's heart rate ranged 160 - 170's and staying. he dies they pulled the defib to shock him....but please keep in mind, the people that cared for him....the goggles get clogged. it is very difficult to spend more than 10 minutes with the face mask. One critical care RN pricked himself instead of the patient, because he was not able to see clearly thru the goggles.

4. Call from a friend, that another friend had passed. I asked how.....I was told internal bleeding. I probed for more.....the family is under the impression that since she didn't have symptoms of the flu, nor virus, she was sent home without furthing probing. she returns home. the ambulance is called by the family to take her back. she becaome non responsive in the ambulance and later died in the hospital. Internal bleeding.

The virus is a monster. it is taking people out. now let me place my Financial Hat back on. the Dow has erased all the gains since Trump started his presidency. The DOW dropping 3000 pts is or was unheard of. The country is way behind in its response to react. 600 pts diagnosed last week. now the county has 5000, some 1 week later. this number will increase exponentially. more and more ICU beds are needed because in my hsopital, many are getting worse with more coming in.

This shiat is real. I witnessed my first death on March 6. since then 3 more have died, with many remaining very weak. RNs have no mask, no face shields.....I will try to post pictures.
 
sityslicker1

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2ez fo you mind sharing what state your in? I'm in NC and as of last weekend we had 1 confirmed case at our hospital and from what I heard they were intubated. I return to work tomorrow, I'm sure that number has grown exponentially.

For precautions we are holding all negative pressure rooms open for Covid 19 patients. There are less than 30 of these rooms around the entire hosptial. The initial plan is to do 1 RN to 1 pt care. We also cut visitation to 1 person only your entire stay. Unfortunately this means comfort care cases as well.
 
Lizard King

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Meanwhile, my asthmatic nurse wife went to work today because caring for her patients is more important to her than staying home and staying safe. Sorry, your ortho patient isn't more important than you staying safe for your family, she just doesn't want to listen.
 
enjoy_tren

enjoy_tren

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Jan 7, 2014
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Wonder his effective chloroquine will be in mitigating this disaster
 
BackAtIt

BackAtIt

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Oct 3, 2016
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For the geniuses, out of curiosity, how do we "kill" the virus?...All I'm seeing is how to stop it from spreading....I mean, if we quarantine people, keep people at bay, that still won't get rid of the virus, right?...What are the "experts" dong about that?....How do we get rid of it, stop it's existence?...

I know drugs such as "chloroquine" are being tested to "kill" it once it's inside of a human, but what I'm asking is, how do we stop it from existing period?...
 
enjoy_tren

enjoy_tren

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Jan 7, 2014
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For the geniuses, out of curiosity, how do we "kill" the virus?...All I'm seeing is how to stop it from spreading....I mean, if we quarantine people, keep people at bay, that still won't get rid of the virus, right?...What are the "experts" dong about that?....How do we get rid of it, stop it's existence?...

I know drugs such as "chloroquine" are being tested to "kill" it once it's inside of a human, but what I'm asking is, how do we stop it from existing period?...


From what I understand it will be really long time before we "kill it". It will take years of vaccinations to do so and even then theres a chance it can mutate
 
enjoy_tren

enjoy_tren

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Im hearing all this talk about marshall law and that it's coming. What would that look like?
 
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2ez

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Feb 25, 2012
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2ez fo you mind sharing what state your in? I'm in NC and as of last weekend we had 1 confirmed case at our hospital and from what I heard they were intubated. I return to work tomorrow, I'm sure that number has grown exponentially.

For precautions we are holding all negative pressure rooms open for Covid 19 patients. There are less than 30 of these rooms around the entire hosptial. The initial plan is to do 1 RN to 1 pt care. We also cut visitation to 1 person only your entire stay. Unfortunately this means comfort care cases as well.

Slick,

I work in Jersey. Construction Dudes surveyed the entire hospital. They tell us any floor can be made into negative pressure. some easier than others. So this is what happened on Monday. The Ortho floor, swapped with the Oncology floor. we now occupy the Oncology floor because it is easier to convert. to many of us this is very telling. it is telling us if there are any Joint surgeries, it will be done in surgical centers and not at the hospital. So the once Ortho staff are now the Covid team. We are to take the stable Covid 19 patients and those being ruled out. the more critical will go to other floors. I know one step down floor has been converted to another ICU floor. this is all to deal with the new demand. as i said earlier....many Covid 19 patients are not doing well.

I did not take this shiat serious initially, but when you see these patients.....it is more than a reality check, it is a Mike Tyson Reality blow. My CLL/Leukemia Pt came in with Hemoglobin 4, Platelets 6, WBC 0.3 YES, YOU ARE READING CORRECTLY. age early 50's. 103 fevers. he came from home. they gave him a huge dose of chemo, whatever this means. mental status altered. urinating on floor. spitting at staff. verbally abusive. swinging on anyone that comes near because his entire body hurts.

i have on goggles and a surgical mask and initially, at the start of shift he was spitting on all of us. I asked if I can bring him something to drink while he wait for his breakfast....he told me yes and that i need to hurry MotherFucker. by lunch time or shortly after, i was able to calm him. my hospital is so fucked up that they charge people for the TV. since guest are not allowed, you would think that they will allow free TV, at least local channels but no. i paid 5 days for him. washed him up, cleaned the floors, changed his bedding. talked to him. the time in the room exceeded 1.5hrs. Told my dude / patient, help me , help him. he asked me if i ever seen anyone as sick and fucked up as he....i told him yes.....and they bounced back, and that he must keep the faith. Keep the faith and please do not give the staff a hard time because we only want the best for him. he became extremely emotional. apologetic and told me he was scarred. doctors are talking to him thru the doors and not coming in. he has never seen this before and it makes him scared.

i may return to work tomorrow. Not sure yet. the hospital is short staffed. they offer OT plus $600 incentive to show up. the money is ok, but we all are there to help, we (the staff) just ask to make sure we are safe and properly protected.

The spitting in the face happens. been there done that many times. but factoring in the possibility he may be infected takes it to another level. again, i have on goggles and a surgical mask, with a paper thin gown. this is not adequate protection.
 
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