What does it take to get lean?

[gunslinger]

This is the way. Once I went carnivore over a year ago and cut out all the veggies and carbs along with sugar. Just ate beef, eggs, bacon. Never counted any calories and weight/fat just melted off. Was the leanest I’ve been in many years even at 47.


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Yep. This is what I've been saying for years. Its not necessarily the best "bodybuilding" diet but if you wanna be lean and healthy and cut imflamation its the best thing you can do. I'm 49 years old and carnivore is one of the best things I have ever done for my health.

 

[Straight30weight]

I don’t do well without some carbs. It’s a fine line for me, too many and I just get fat and too little and I’m fucked. I already have low blood sugar and it crashes quite often. No carbs would make my workouts garbage, I’d get migraines and my sugar tanks.

 

[schulee]

2700 is probably fine if you’re still dropping, I wouldn’t keep adjusting every week.
Only thing I’d change is drop protein a bit and push carbs up — you’ll feel it in your lifts.
Also that one loose day can mess more than it helps sometimes

 

[Straight30weight]

2700 is probably fine if you’re still dropping, I wouldn’t keep adjusting every week.
Only thing I’d change is drop protein a bit and push carbs up — you’ll feel it in your lifts.
Also that one loose day can mess more than it helps sometimes

Things are still moving in a good direction, 214 this morning. I’ve changed nothing at all, maybe pushed the cardio a little more but nothing crazy. I will likely add some more carbs in just because I’m feeling flat. But overall, solid progress

 

[searay]

. Next week I’ll up the Reta to 2mg, I am feeling the appetite suppression already though. I had a very hard time getting my last meal in last night, and it’s the same food I’ve been eating for weeks. And on Sunday I loosened the diet up a little and had some candy, that made me sick (that NEVER happens)

Why would you bump the dose of Reta when your getting good results and even some negative side effects. I've done Reta at much lower doses and dropped from 18% to 10%. However, at least once a month I was getting severe stomach pain that would last 6-8hrs and make me exhausted for up to a wk. I've been off all GLP's for about a yr and still having the once a month episode of sever stomach pain followed by being exhausted. My primary had me get a CT scan that showed a possible problem with my gallbladder but it was to blurry so I'm getting an MRI next wk and hopefully it will show a definitive issue that can be dealt with. Along with the once a month episodes my appetite is non existent and training is inconsistent. My point? Be careful with the Reta. Take enough to get a result but why push the dose when all you may get are negative side effects?

 

[Bigtex]

Granted I am not a bodybuilder and never have been, but this retired powerlifter has dropped from 292lbs to now 225 since 2016 (10 years) without putting any effort into it. In the last year and 1/2 I dropped from 245 to 225 alone, but have put a little more effort. On average,, day by day I consume 5362cal, 25% protein(319g/d), 32% carbs(451g/d), and 43% fat(451g/d). All of the fat coming from virgin olive oil. I eat seafood and chicken every meal with a lot of Greek Yogart and very low GI carbs like brown rice, absolutely no vegies. I have been using 1.5iu of HGH for years and 500mg of metformin every morning for years. My wife is a bodybuilder and she says she has never seen anyone with such dedication/control to eating. I eat the same 6 meals every day for over a year at the same time of the day. I eat no processed foods and no high-GI sugar (Mediterranean diet) In time, this style of eating combined with 5 days of week of training (NO CARDIO) the composition of my body is slowly changing. No more 3-4X t-shirts, I am down to XL. Lipids are good, BP is 120/72, yesterday at the cardiologist's with a 63 RHR.

I can't say this combination will work with anyone else because genetics play a huge part, but I can tell you that dedication plays a huge part. I am a very anal person, so this part, whether it was gaining or losing, is very easy for me. I feel bad for all you guys who have to work so hard to lose.

 

[Wilson6]

Genetics is key. The Master's female I train that just turned 60 was at 10.7% BF early March. Her posing coach wanted her to do a show in early June. Her base year round is 100 mg TC and 100 mg ND a week. Her prep coach wanted her to add Winny and T3. I said no winny or T3 at age 60. She added 100 mg of Primo E and 100 mg of Mast E instead, GH 1 IU daily at night, has been on Reta 2 mg/wk split, one Stimerex am for a year. She went from lean to grainy/vascular in 6 weeks. Bod Pod yesterday was 5.8%. Dropped 8 lbs of fat in 6 weeks. Like something out of a sci fi movie. I told her to start packing in the kcal bc she's getting too lean. Her lean mass did not change 134 lbs lean at 5'5. One of her friends is doing basically the same thing, not even close with regard to outcome even though training and diet is spot on (pisses her off). Amazes me how there is such variation in responses to diet, training and PEDs. She walks alot at work and 20 min on the tread for warmup. That's it, like she doesn't even have to try to get in contest shape. Had labs done this am will see what that looks like. The base 100 ea TC/ND, from labs you'd never know she was on anything. She may add 10 - 15 Var for the last 6 weeks of prep if her labs are clean.