What does an IFBB Card Holder REALLY Cycle?

[63Vette]

I was simply using Jay as an example, you could replace his name with any pro. There are a lot of people that "claim" to know a lot. I can say that if you think guys that are at Jay, ronnie, or Phil's level are taking only 8IU/GH everyday and only 16IU/slin ED you are kidding yourself.

Well, it's high time we pealed back the onion and got close to knowing what they are running.

The brother I referred to that was taking 8iu of GH and 8iu insulin with it 2x day said that was his 'off season stack' and he does not have his card but will going for it this year at the ripe old age of 25.

I have seen nearly the exact stack I got from him from a few other guys the last few years. My very best educated guess is that the stack described is pretty damn close to accurate and one of the reasons for the health issues a lot of lower level pros run in to.

I suppose a much easier question if we don't want to find out what they are running is: "Does more gear translate in to more gains?"

Respect,
Vette

 

[Turbolag]

Here's the thing though.

At their level, this is the amount their body needs. It's different if a pro bb or high level pl takes a gram of test and tren, than if a novice does.

So it sounds like a lot, but their bodies need that much to support their size.

And you also have to take into account, that these pros are eating at least 5,000 calories a day.

And have dieted down a whole bunch to get their look.

So I think it makes sense that their supplement usage would be in higher doses, but not because their trying to over use. But because their bodies need the amount their giving it to use the high calorie diet they consume.

 

[Birdman]

Turbolag and DLTH,

I'm not questioning the fact that the some of the Pros do cycles within these parameters. Yes, they are big, gigantic dudes with intense vascularity and insane strength requiring far more gear than the common anonymous steroid forum poster would ever post ...but sooner or later Jay is going to end up just like Arnie ...lying on a cold, stainless steel table with a plastic tube down his throat, sucking O's, while some over-priced Hollywood surgeon is busy re-routing his heart so that he can live another day ....boinking fat Mexican maids while the wife is away.

True, for every goal there is a trade-off in life. ...Is the fame and fortune found in bodybuilding worth the probable internal damage produced with cycles like this?

-Birdman

 

[DLTH]

I got this from some board but I cant remember which one but here it is

Pro Cycle

12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout

8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex

This is more realistic for a pro ^^

Plenty of guys will say BS and the pros don't use that much it's just their "amazing genetics". Yes it's definitely their genetics that play a huge role and get them to that level but take a good long look at what guys like Phil or Kai look like. These guys are under 6 feet and weigh around 300lbs with abs. Do you guys not see how unnatural and insane that is? These guys are walking around with 100lbs of muscle, that is so unnatural and ridiculous. The amount of drugs needed for that is absurd, these dudes are walking chemistry labs. Anybody that says it's diet, training, genetics, and "minimal" drug use is full of shit. It's definitely genetics but it's crazy drug use as well.

 

[DLTH]

Turbolag and DLTH,

I'm not questioning the fact that the some of the Pros do cycles within these parameters. Yes, they are big, gigantic dudes with intense vascularity and insane strength requiring far more gear than the common anonymous steroid forum poster would ever post ...but sooner or later Jay is going to end up just like Arnie ...lying on a cold, stainless steel table with a plastic tube down his throat, sucking O's, while some over-priced Hollywood surgeon is busy re-routing his heart so that he can live another day ....boinking fat Mexican maids while the wife is away.

True, for every goal there is a trade-off in life. ...Is the fame and fortune found in bodybuilding worth the probable internal damage produced with cycles like this?

-Birdman

What are you talking about? Arnold is in fine health and the heart problem he had he was born with and had nothing to do with his previous steroid use. He's an old man now, of course he isn't going to look like he use too. Who is laying on a cold steel table?

 

[Bigwhite]

I got this from some board but I cant remember which one but here it is

Pro Cycle

12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout

8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex

So what happened to the test 2 weeks out?

 

[Bigwhite]

There are drugs to protect the heart on cycle. Tmz is what I take. Need a scrip or can be found on line pharmacies...

 

[PillarofBalance]

So what happened to the test 2 weeks out?

Not sure at what point but I've seen cycles for bodybuilders that I actually know - not some made up pro's off of GetBig and they'll drop their test out of the cycle just before competing but keep the other compounds like tren in there.

 

[Zomb131]

I have a close friend I talk to daily who is helping an IFBB pro prep for a show. He is doing the pro's diet, cardio, and supps. He told me that he doesn't use more then 1000mg's on one drug per week. Since he's preping he's using: sust, tren, mast, winny, var, and 3iu rips. The pro's genetic response is fantastic.

 

[BuildBigger]

I got this from some board but I cant remember which one but here it is

Pro Cycle

12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout

8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex

These guys must be genuine pin cussions! Dont know how they can take all that hammering and multiple daily injections, and before you ask, I guess I am a mouse and not a man. Guess when youre competing for the cash you gotta do what it takes!!

 

[GoPro]

Funck, that a lot of scare tissue. Were do they pin anymore....lol

 

[MAYO]

So what happened to the test 2 weeks out?

Test is cut to increase dryness. Note the cycle begins tapering esters from the beginning: cyp to prop to base then off.