Trump on Joe Rogan's Podcasts

[fasttwitch]

1935 Sinclair Lewis: “ When fascism arrives in America, it will be clothed in a flag and carrying a bible”.

Not to shabby with the prediction.

One of my favorite writers. His book "it Can't happen here" had more impact on me than any other book than Machiavelli's The Prince and Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip, is Trump. This novel (1936) predicted Trump by almost a century.

Taken from Wiki,:

"
In 1936, American Senator Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip enters the presidential election campaign on a populist platform, promising to restore the country to prosperity and greatness, and promising each citizen $5,000 per year. Portraying himself as a champion of "the forgotten man" and "traditional" American values, Windrip defeats incumbent President Franklin D. Roosevelt for the Democratic nomination, and then beats his Republican opponent, Senator Walt Trowbridge, in the November election.

Having previously foreshadowed some authoritarian measures to reorganize the government, Windrip outlaws dissent, incarcerates political enemies in concentration camps, and trains and arms a paramilitary force called the "Minute Men" (named after the Revolutionary War militias of the same name), who terrorize citizens and enforce the policies of a corporatist regime. One of Windrip's first acts as president is to eliminate the influence of Congress, which draws the ire of many citizens as well as the legislators themselves. The Minute Men respond to protests harshly, attacking demonstrators with bayonets. In addition to these actions, Windrip's administration, known as the Corpo government, curtails women's and minority rights, and eliminates individual states by subdividing the country into administrative sectors. The government of these sectors is managed by Corpo authorities, usually prominent businessmen or Minute Men officers. Those accused of crimes against the government appear before kangaroo courts presided over by military judges. A majority of Americans approve of these dictatorial measures, seeing them as painful but necessary steps to restore American power."

 

[tommyguns2]

I watched about half (90 minutes) of JD Vance's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast. Then I read an article about it. Crazy... almost like two different universes. LOL

Vance came across pretty normal, friendly, open-minded, and smart. I'm always impressed when someone simply admits that they don't know or that they're not sure. Makes you seem like a real human being.

If you're already voting for Harris, I doubt there was anything that would change a vote. However, I wonder how many undecided voters watched and what they thought. I'd find they're thoughts on his appearance interesting.

I think Harris missed an opportunity there. But, maybe not. 3 hours is a long time, and maybe she wouldn't have fared too well. We'll never know.

 

[fasttwitch]

I think Harris missed an opportunity there. But, maybe not. 3 hours is a long time, and maybe she wouldn't have fared too well. We'll never know.

Insiders (according to investigative journalist Ryan Grimm) claim that Kamala's people do not think it would be worth it to speak to Rogan. His audience is almost entirely male and the demographic is mostly locked in for Trump. The same way the female vote is decidedly hers. For instance, would Trump pick up many female voters by going on the view? It is not worth it for Trump.

In the final days time becomes more precious. These two sociopaths... Ummm, I mean candidates, Are spending their time where they get the biggest bang for their buck, so to speak.

 

[tommyguns2]

Insiders (according to investigative journalist Ryan Grimm) claim that Kamala's people do not think it would be worth it to speak to Rogan. His audience is almost entirely male and the demographic is mostly locked in for Trump. The same way the female vote is decidedly hers. For instance, would Trump pick up many female voters by going on the view? It is not worth it for Trump.

In the final days time becomes more precious. These two sociopaths... Ummm, I mean candidates, Are spending their time where they get the biggest bang for their buck, so to speak.

I think you make a good point. And that may very well have been the calculus the Harris campaign employed. I just think that whenever you have a chance to get in front of 15 million people, I hope to be able to surprise someone and change a few minds. But with a week to go, you have to shepherd your resources wisely.

 

[Yano]

I watched about half (90 minutes) of JD Vance's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast. Then I read an article about it. Crazy... almost like two different universes. LOL

Vance came across pretty normal, friendly, open-minded, and smart. I'm always impressed when someone simply admits that they don't know or that they're not sure. Makes you seem like a real human being.

If you're already voting for Harris, I doubt there was anything that would change a vote. However, I wonder how many undecided voters watched and what they thought. I'd find they're thoughts on his appearance interesting.

I think Harris missed an opportunity there. But, maybe not. 3 hours is a long time, and maybe she wouldn't have fared too well. We'll never know.

Vance reminds me of a used car salesman on some forgotten highway trying to sell a car to an 18 yr old with a blown rear main seal

All the oil leaking and he says ,, oh but once you get that fixed on your own,, think of how good you're going to look goin down the road with the radio turned up some hot girl with you huh huh ,, how about it ,, 2500 ?> LOL

He speaks clearly , but what comes out of his mouth is complete and total bullshit

 

[fasttwitch]

Vance reminds me of a used car salesman on some forgotten highway trying to sell a car to an 18 yr old with a blown rear main seal

All the oil leaking and he says ,, oh but once you get that fixed on your own,, think of how good you're going to look goin down the road with the radio turned up some hot girl with you huh huh ,, how about it ,, 2500 ?> LOL

He speaks clearly , but what comes out of his mouth is complete and total bullshit

I get the same impression. At least Trump wings it and speak what is in his mind. Love him or hate him, he just blurts out his inner thoughts. Wrong, right, truth, lies, Trump just tosses it out there.

By contrast, Vance is a highly polished Ivy League educated San Francisco hedge fund manager Goldman Sachs friendly elitist with a smooth tongue and big Silicon Valley money backing him. He speaks in typical Washington DC establishment speak. He remembers and acts according to what the advisers tell him. He remembers to smile. He hedges. He avoids the questions. Vance is the anti-Trump as far as personality is concerned.

Conservative love him now. But if Trump loses, Vance will be berated by Trump in total obscurity. Trump never ever sees himself as the problem. Trump would pin the loss on Vance and destroy Vance.

 

[BD Bodybuilder]

You voting on anything but policy speaks volumes. You do not have to drink tea with the president nor fuck them ak how does personaliity fit into it at all? Really

Policy or character, my choice would be anybody but Trump. Two points from many: (1) His crazy ideas on tariffs and deportation will tank our economy. (2) His support of Putin over Ukraine sickens me.

 

[tommyguns2]

By contrast, Vance is a highly polished Ivy League educated San Francisco hedge fund manager Goldman Sachs friendly elitist with a smooth tongue and big Silicon Valley money backing him. He speaks in typical Washington DC establishment speak. He remembers and acts according to what the advisers tell him. He remembers to smile. He hedges. He avoids the questions. Vance is the anti-Trump as far as personality is concerned.

Did you watch any of his conversation on Rogan? I didn't see what you stated above. A normal dude having a normal conversation with Rogan. And 3 hours of conversation. Anyone who watches it for themselves might be surprised, as the MSM has tried hard to caricature the dude.

 

[Yano]

Did you watch any of his conversation on Rogan? I didn't see what you stated above. A normal dude having a normal conversation with Rogan. And 3 hours of conversation. Anyone who watches it for themselves might be surprised, as the MSM has tried hard to caricature the dude.

Vance sounded like a salesman trying to convince some one cancer is good for them.

 

[tommyguns2]

Vance sounded like a salesman trying to convince some one cancer is good for them.

That's odd. I didn't get that impression from the Rogan interview with Vance this past week. I'd encourage others to watch a bit and make their own opinion.

 

[Rider]

That's odd. I didn't get that impression from the Rogan interview with Vance this past week. I'd encourage others to watch a bit and make their own opinion.

Agreed I felt Vance spoke well and he volunteered to do it. Joe Rogan himself said Kamala demanded her interview be scheduled for just one hour, and Joe had to travel to her rather for her to go to Texas. This was a mistake considering she needs men votes, and she also needs a real no bullshit unscripted interview with Joe which would have been beneficial.

@Yano you’ve mentioned 538 polling as accurate a number times, but it’s actually owned by extremely biased ABC News. Not many folks realize that, and it’s all right. I didn’t know either until recently, but it makes sense to me now.
I don’t like getting involved with political posts, but the mainstream media and Google is trying to perturb the election in Kamala’s favor worse than ever before.

 

[fasttwitch]

Agreed I felt Vance spoke well and he volunteered to do it. Joe Rogan himself said Kamala demanded her interview be scheduled for just one hour, and Joe had to travel to her rather for her to go to Texas. This was a mistake considering she needs men votes, and she also needs a real no bullshit unscripted interview with Joe which would have been beneficial.

@Yano you’ve mentioned 538 polling as accurate a number times, but it’s actually owned by extremely biased ABC News. Not many folks realize that, and it’s all right. I didn’t know either until recently, but it makes sense to me now.
I don’t like getting involved with political posts, but the mainstream media and Google is trying to perturb the election in Kamala’s favor worse than ever before.

538 has twice as many Trump affiliated pollsters as Democratic aligned pollsters.

In fact, Trump aligned pollsters are flooding the zone.