Trump Administration Policy Changes like and Dislike Thread

[tommyguns2]

Several U.S. government agencies are responsible for controlling, investigating, and eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse across different sectors. The main agencies include:

Federal Agencies:​

1. Government Accountability Office (GAO)
   • Conducts audits and investigations to identify inefficiencies, waste, and fraud in federal spending.
2. Office of Inspector General (OIG)
   • Nearly every federal agency has its own OIG to investigate fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement within its specific area.
3. General Services Administration (GSA)
   • Manages federal procurement and promotes efficiency in federal agencies to prevent wasteful spending.
4. Office of Management and Budget (OMB)
   • Oversees implementation of financial management practices across federal agencies, aiming to reduce wasteful expenditures.
5. Department of Justice (DOJ)
   • Investigates and prosecutes criminal fraud and corruption involving federal resources.
6. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
   • Investigates federal fraud cases, including financial crimes, corruption, and misuse of public funds.
7. Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
   • Detects and investigates fraud and abuse related to tax filings and tax evasion schemes.
8. Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
   • Protects consumers from fraudulent or deceptive practices by businesses and enforces antitrust laws.

State and Local Agencies:​

• State Auditors and Inspectors General
  • Many states have their own auditors or OIG offices responsible for monitoring and eliminating waste and fraud at the state and local levels.
• Attorneys General Offices
  • Investigate and prosecute fraud and consumer protection cases within state jurisdictions.

Specialized Oversight Bodies:​

• Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB) (temporary, formed during major stimulus programs)
• Special Inspectors General (e.g., SIGTARP, which oversaw the Troubled Asset Relief Program)

I'm not being a smart ass here. But the natural question to ask is if all these agencies are doing this job, then why is all this waste, graft and fraud present? It's not a conservative or liberal thing. It's just the natural outgrowth of a lack of accountability and transparency.

Musk looked at US Treasury payments, and noted that about $4.5T in payments that did not include the Treasury Account Symbol (TAS), which is the ID code used to classify transactions of the Fed. Govt.

Transactions logged using a TAS code are sent to both the Treasury and Office for Management and Budget (OMB) for reporting to ensure money is spent according to its intended purpose.

With expenditures of $7-7.5T, $4.5T wasn't coded so it couldn't be tracked. Why? Why didn't any of these agencies whose job they have to ID and reduce fraud not even have processes in place that every small business in this country employs?

DOGE claims it found $4.7 trillion in Treasury payments that are ‘untraceable’

Musk touted his organization’s ability to bring a ‘major improvement in Treasury payment integrity’

www.yahoo.com

 

[tommyguns2]

Wash DC is freaking out right now because they know that DOGE is different. A guy who can't be bought is digging into all the corruption that is Washington, both red and blue. The more squeeling you here, the more effective DOGE is.

 

[fasttwitch]

I'm not being a smart ass here. But the natural question to ask is if all these agencies are doing this job, then why is all this waste, graft and fraud present? It's not a conservative or liberal thing. It's just the natural outgrowth of a lack of accountability and transparency.

Musk looked at US Treasury payments, and noted that about $4.5T in payments that did not include the Treasury Account Symbol (TAS), which is the ID code used to classify transactions of the Fed. Govt.

Transactions logged using a TAS code are sent to both the Treasury and Office for Management and Budget (OMB) for reporting to ensure money is spent according to its intended purpose.

With expenditures of $7-7.5T, $4.5T wasn't coded so it couldn't be tracked. Why? Why didn't any of these agencies whose job they have to ID and reduce fraud not even have processes in place that every small business in this country employs?

DOGE claims it found $4.7 trillion in Treasury payments that are ‘untraceable’

Musk touted his organization’s ability to bring a ‘major improvement in Treasury payment integrity’

www.yahoo.com

No offense. I knew this response was coming.

Most of what Elon is mentioning are talking points. He is being disingenuous. These are "untagged" entries. Happens all the time, everywhere. My accountant is constantly having to reach out to me and ask me what certain transactions are, if I don't code them properly or forget altogether. I'm sure you also deal with this. It is not in every situation indicative of fraud. It can be sometimes, sure. But more often than not somebody did not tag the entry properly. The federal government is massive. Imagine the coding errors my small business can make.. then multiple that between my business and the size of the federal government.

Agencies responsible (like Treasury, OMB, and GAO) do frequently acknowledge such gaps. They're chronic issues due to legacy technology, inconsistent data standards, bureaucracy, and difficulty in synchronizing across agencies and human error. These point to an outdated, bureaucratic system badly in need of modernization. Not necessary destroying.

Musk is declaring bad intentions (fraud) where old software and human error is likely the majority of the issues.

it is also telling that Musk is only finding these issues in places where he would have imagined these issues being present, as far back as a year ago. Why no major revelations for his favorite pet programs which benefit him?

You are a lawyer, you know this is not coincidence. It speaks to motive. He is finding exactly what he wants to find. Everywhere he looks he sees evidence that confirms his prior beliefs.

 

[Yano]

I'm not being a smart ass here. But the natural question to ask is if all these agencies are doing this job, then why is all this waste, graft and fraud present? It's not a conservative or liberal thing. It's just the natural outgrowth of a lack of accountability and transparency.

Musk looked at US Treasury payments, and noted that about $4.5T in payments that did not include the Treasury Account Symbol (TAS), which is the ID code used to classify transactions of the Fed. Govt.

Transactions logged using a TAS code are sent to both the Treasury and Office for Management and Budget (OMB) for reporting to ensure money is spent according to its intended purpose.

With expenditures of $7-7.5T, $4.5T wasn't coded so it couldn't be tracked. Why? Why didn't any of these agencies whose job they have to ID and reduce fraud not even have processes in place that every small business in this country employs?

DOGE claims it found $4.7 trillion in Treasury payments that are ‘untraceable’

Musk touted his organization’s ability to bring a ‘major improvement in Treasury payment integrity’

www.yahoo.com

I wouldnt trust elon musk to tell me the right time of day,, racist illegal alien that hates America trump just loves the taste of his dick

 

[midevil]

I despise Soros.

I despise Biden.

I despise Trump.

I despise Elon.

I despise Peosi.

I despise Mcconell.

I despise Obama.

I despise Vance.

They are all traitors.

Don't agree on Elon or Trump / Vance. Why are they traitors bro?

 

[fasttwitch]

Don't agree on Elon or Trump / Vance. Why are they traitors bro?

Anyone who follows and pursues their own good over the collective good is a traitor. While in power, that is.

In addition, like many other presidents Trump is not respecting the distribution of power. He is ignoring the directives of the judicial branch. Trump is also pushing to limit the US constitution which he took an oath to uphold.

 

[midevil]

I think it's interesting that these puke District Court judges think they have the authority override the executive branch. POTUS and ICE enforce immigration. District Courts do not. It'd be great to see these Judges impeached.

 

[midevil]

Anyone who follows and pursues their own good over the collective good is a traitor. While in power, that is.

In addition, like many other presidents Trump is not respecting the distribution of power. He is ignoring the directives of the judicial branch. Trump is also pushing to limit the US constitution which he took an oath to uphold.

You are mistaken. Only the Supreme Court has the power to block, not district court local Judges.

 

[tommyguns2]

I think a number of different constitutional issues are going to make their way to the Supreme Court in the next year. One of the big issues is what is the scope of the executive's authority. The constitution uses very broad language in granting the executive broad authority under Article II. However, the framers of the constitution never imagined the Federal Gov't would grow as it has, and that the executive branch would have mushroomed like it has over the past 75 or so years. So if Trump is able to do what the constitution says he can do, people are going to freak out, because that means all the executive branch employees do what he says, and they've been operating as a comfy unaccountable fourth branch of the Federal Govt for a good while.

Trump does have to execute the laws faithfully. So if the Congress says you have to spend $X here, he must do so. But the budget process these days, just grants large sums of money to the various agencies with very little direction. That was on purpose, as the agencies had little accountability for how it was spent, and I suspect that lots of money found its way back to the various people in Congress. A nice little arrangement. Now the executive is saying, NO. If a bunch of money is allocated to the agency, that doesn't come with a requirement that it all be spent, and even if it did, the executive can spend it as he chooses. That is what is freaking everyone out.

Immigration authority is granted to the executive branch in Article II. While Congress can pass legislation on the process of considering immigrants legally, the constitution grants the executive broad power to faithfully execute the laws, and all those illegal immigrants are present illegally under the law passed by Congress. Having the third branch of govt step in and start telling the executive how he must faithfully execute the laws is novel. As a silly example, if Trump is having cease-fire talks with UK and RU, can a district court enjoin the negotiations? If so, why? If the court can enjoin Trump's execution of the immigration laws, why can't the courts stop Trump's foreign policy actions? You see where this is going? This isn't necessarily Conservative vs. Liberal, because this impacts all future presidents, red and blue.

 

[Yano]

I think a number of different constitutional issues are going to make their way to the Supreme Court in the next year. One of the big issues is what is the scope of the executive's authority. The constitution uses very broad language in granting the executive broad authority under Article II. However, the framers of the constitution never imagined the Federal Gov't would grow as it has, and that the executive branch would have mushroomed like it has over the past 75 or so years. So if Trump is able to do what the constitution says he can do, people are going to freak out, because that means all the executive branch employees do what he says, and they've been operating as a comfy unaccountable fourth branch of the Federal Govt for a good while.

Trump does have to execute the laws faithfully. So if the Congress says you have to spend $X here, he must do so. But the budget process these days, just grants large sums of money to the various agencies with very little direction. That was on purpose, as the agencies had little accountability for how it was spent, and I suspect that lots of money found its way back to the various people in Congress. A nice little arrangement. Now the executive is saying, NO. If a bunch of money is allocated to the agency, that doesn't come with a requirement that it all be spent, and even if it did, the executive can spend it as he chooses. That is what is freaking everyone out.

Immigration authority is granted to the executive branch in Article II. While Congress can pass legislation on the process of considering immigrants legally, the constitution grants the executive broad power to faithfully execute the laws, and all those illegal immigrants are present illegally under the law passed by Congress. Having the third branch of govt step in and start telling the executive how he must faithfully execute the laws is novel. As a silly example, if Trump is having cease-fire talks with UK and RU, can a district court enjoin the negotiations? If so, why? If the court can enjoin Trump's execution of the immigration laws, why can't the courts stop Trump's foreign policy actions? You see where this is going? This isn't necessarily Conservative vs. Liberal, because this impacts all future presidents, red and blue.

the supreme court is corrupt and controlled by Harlan Crow and his wife , he makes sure Uncle Clarence does as he's told

 

[Yano]

I think it's interesting that these puke District Court judges think they have the authority override the executive branch. POTUS and ICE enforce immigration. District Courts do not. It'd be great to see these Judges impeached.

it was ok when trump cult member judges did it though ,,,right ? haaaahahah its shit like this that makes me laugh. Selective short term memory.

 

[midevil]

it was ok when trump cult member judges did it though ,,,right ? haaaahahah its shit like this that makes me laugh. Selective short term memory.

provide an example? When and what Judge?