Tren and what to stack with it??

[tommyguns2]

Find a nice blend of Tren A/Test P/Mast. That would be the best way to go. But you will need to have a quality AI like Adex or Aromasin and some Cabaser for suppression of prolactin sides. I've ran Tren A ED @ 100mg for upwards of 12 weeks at a time. But I also paid for it by feeling shitty, irritable, and having insomnia. But I also reaped the rewards of looking great and adding some good strength.

If you want to run Tren, I'm gonna go against the grain here and say do it. Just make sure you do your homework and have everything you need on hand. Seriously, if your already taking the steps to buy AAS illegally and injecting them into your body, why not try what you want to try.

I agree with a lot of what's said here. Prop/tren ace/mast is wonderful. Add winnie or var at 50mg/day and it's even better.

 

[tommyguns2]

Tren has done some amazing things in the aesthetics of my physique, but strangely, I haven't gotten much stronger on the stuff. Most people say that it makes them as strong as a bull. Go figure.

Regarding tren dosing, I don't see much of a reason to dose it heavily. My first thought would be to run tren ace at 50mg/EOD along with prop at 50-75mg/EOD. Adding the mast and/or the winny/var just makes a wonderful thing even better.

 

[Get Some]

NO way Tren should be included in a first cycle simply because of the recovery time. Run test with maybe an oral for your first cycle. Deca or Tren the suppression is exponential compared to test. It takes me minimum 4 weeks longer to recover on tren or Deca than a cycle including test, EQ, or some less harsh drug. Caber/prami is a must while using tren and the idea of supplementing T3 is great too. I actually think it is smart to include a minimal t3 dose in all bulking cycles, just to keep that thing firing on all cyclinders.

I don't get what's so hard about understanding that things become so much easier to understand once you go through a simple cycle first. Run some test and dbol or similar and figure out how your body reacts and how long you need to recover. Things like Caber/prami, AI's, SERMs, etc. are more toxic than the AAS you are taking and should be used as sparingly as possible. Unfortunately, to be safe, Tren requires you to use more of most of these things.

 

[soinkid]

im currently running tren e with test e and eq...its turning out to be a great stack. Im only goin 8 weeks at 550mgs of tren a week...this is my first time on tren, but my no means my second cycle...id wait a couple more cycles and learn your body and its reactions to aas before id start goin all out...just my advice...good luck bro

 

[nunzinunz]

the Ron Burgundy pic just made my day,... thanx for that lol

 

[SAD]

i dont think you read my reply. your right i did not run tren my first second or 6th cycle. i said i take advice from people who know what they are doing and who have done it all. alot of ppl just like the ones belowhave said the same. tren isnt for someone whos just getting into aas and doesnt know too much. of course someone can do anything their first cycle. i know someone whose 18 whos taking 8ius of gh a day along with alot of other stuff... is that smart or wise?? no, it isnt. but it can be done. and i dont know what you could of refrained from on my post about an example of 6 cycles.

Again, easy nunzinunz. I apologize if I didn't correctly infer from your short reply to DU what you actually meant. I was just taking your words at their face-value, which to me, said "Of course it's hearsay, but it's hearsay from people who know what they are talking about, which is the people I take advice from". Which is why I brought up the point that since you didn't run tren in your first half-dozen cycles, doesn't mean you can recommend against it for everyone. It should be on a case-by-case basis. In Emedic's case, you are exactly right, he has no business doing tren on his second cycle unless he doesn't run his second cycle for a few years and learns a lot in the meantime.

The bolded and italicized quote from your post says it all. Tren isn't for someone who's just getting into AAS AND doesn't know too much. However, for someone who has run a cycle or two, knows how they respond to a test base, and has done an abundant amount of research/Q&A/contemplation regarding tren, I see nothing wrong with that person including tren in a 2nd or 3rd cycle.

As far as why you "don't know what could of refrained from" regarding your post of what you think the first 6 cycles should look like, you don't really believe that that's the only right way to do it, do you? You sound so indignant, as if there should be no way that anyone could disagree with how you tell people to run their first 6 cycles. Ask 10 different TRUE vets, how they would recommend someone runs their first few cycles, and you will get 10 different answers. I was merely saying that, if you would be so kind as to start another thread entitled "Progression of cycles. What would you recommend?", that we could debate it on that thread. I'm not saying that your examples of the first 6 cycles are way off base or wacked out, I just disagree with a few things.

 

[HisAngriness]

ok lets all take a moment to shake our dicks...



...pissing contest is over.
lol

 

[nunzinunz]

i wasnt saying this is how it should be done and only way. i was giving advice. i see alot of ppl going so much so fast without enjoying and seeing the results of what certain gear can do for you. Of coarse knowledgable ppl can do tren right off the bat but i always think going slower is better. personally id like to see how test and eq works. rather than throw var in the mix with it. id save the var for the next go around. i wanna see how my body responds to eq alone. than go from there. thats y i laid out a few examples of cycles. i was directing it too the guy who originally posted. its obvious he is a newbie without doing much research. hes half way through a cycle and asking questions on his next. figured my cycle layout is very easy for him to follow.

ok ok. i shook my dick. no more pissing hahahaha

 

[nunzinunz]

i dont even know what were talking about anymore lol. i think i just rambled. im on phone with one of my clients and typing at same time lol.

 

[marx]

I was brought into the game as trying test. Then test and an oral. Then test, another oil and the oral...

What I'm saying is I was taught to try one variable at a time, so you know how the individual compound is in your particular body chemistry. Then you have a learning curve. Trying a few new compounds at once obscures how each one makes your particular physiology react.

But we all are different in how we do things and in what our goals are. I'm glad though that I have built up a bunch of knowledge about how my bod reacts to various ergogenic aids.

Growth and self discovery rock!

IMHO

 

[Get Some]

They say knowledge is power... so then would "bro Knowledge" be "bro Power"?.... and what good is bro power? lol. Sounds like a gay fight club.

Anyways, sometimes you just need to let newbs do some research. And you can be more than a newb and still not ready for tren. I think Marx is right on with the progression of things or at least close. You want to add one element at a time to see how your body reacts. This is definitely a marathon and not a sprint. Besides, it is very possible that through the progression from cycle to cycle you find that one particular combo you just can't handle....or you want to run a successful one again at a higher dose. Any number of things can happen and you just have to play it by ear. But it's all for not if you don't REALLY know what the fuck you are doing.

Cheers gents

 

[big_paul_ski]

i like steriods.