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To Use Proviron or Not

silntrunin

silntrunin

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Started a cycle 2 weeks ago, looks something like this

test cyp 500mg/week
EQ 600mg/week
Dbol 50mg/day
Proviron 50mg/day
hcg 500mcg/week
gh 2.5iu/day

the first week I didn't do any Proviron as I wasn't sure I was going to run it at that point. Research was all over the place with half the guys claiming it helped them and the other half saying it nothing for them. So I started my cycle without it and as expected, after week 1 I had bloated up from the dbol. I was up 5-6lbs of water weight. I started the Proviron week 2 and by the end of the week I dropped 4 lbs of that water weight. Not having changed nothing else, I'm convinced it had to be the anit-e effects of the Proviron. So I'll be making Proviron a staple any time I do highly aromatizing compounds in my cycles from now on.
 
Mike_RN

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I've had the same success with Masteron and it's much cheaper to run for the duration of the cycle. As low as 200mg MastE per week, is/was as effective 50mg of Proviron for me.
 
Austinite

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Never experienced any benefit from Proviron other than a libido boost.
 
jhotsauce7

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At low bf I used proviron with winny for its hardenin effects ...ran low doses on both and it worked very well... (50mg each)
 
silntrunin

silntrunin

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Never experienced any benefit from Proviron other than a libido boost.

Exactly, I had a lot of guys tell me the same thing so I wasn't going to run it but I already had 2 bottles so figured why waste them. lol
But it works for me. Dropped most of the water and don't have that bloated feeling anymore. But will defintely give Masteron a try next time around if for no other reason than cost if it works as well.
 
NavyChief

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Mast is a better overall choice. Here is something I posted on AB where I listed each steroid and profile/

Proviron (mesterolone) is an interesting anabolic steroid, though it is not of much value to bodybuilding. It seems that the most common reason for many to consider including it in a steroid stack is for anti-estrogenic activity. In the days before anti-aromatases and the use of SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) such as Clomid and Nolvadex, there was some merit to this.

An amount of aromatizing steroid marginally over the amount that would be tolerable without Proviron became tolerable with the inclusion of it. However, the effect is indeed only marginal, and much better anti-estrogenic agents now exist. When these are used, there is no need for Proviron as an anti-estrogen.

The mechanism by which it has some effectiveness in this regard is from binding weakly to the estrogen receptor without activating it, and to the aromatase enzyme. In the first case, this partially reduces the number of receptor sites momentarily available to bind estrogen, thus reducing estrogenic activity. In the second case, some fraction of aromatase molecules at any given moment are unavailable to bind and convert testosterone, their binding sites being occupied with mesterolone.

If you really want to boost your natural testosterone levels, and receive all the benefits that come with it ie. greater muscle mass and strength, improved endurance, enhanced recovery etc. It is the most important product you will ever use!.

The second most common reason is probably to address a fear that libido might be lost without it. It is true that when added to normal androgen levels, Proviron has an androgenic effect that in many cases improves libido. However, most anabolic steroids also have this same property. In a steroid cycle, adding Proviron accomplishes nothing further. Or in the case of anabolic steroids such as nandrolone (Deca) which for other reasons may adversely affect libido, Proviron provides no greater help against that than do various other anabolic steroids.

One of the interesting things about Proviron is that while it assays (tests) as being an effective anabolic in the rat, it is virtually useless for building muscle in man. This may be due to enhanced conversion in muscle tissue to the diol, but it may instead be due to some unknown reason.

Another interesting thing is that it enjoys some practical use as a pro-sexual agent inbetween cycles. Typically 50 mg is taken shortly before improved performance is expected to be useful.

Contrary to common belief, Proviron is somewhat inhibitory of the HPTA. Using it during the recovery phase as part of post-cycle therapy is counterproductive. It is also inadvisable for this reason to use it continuously while intending to be off-cycle, but occasional recreational use presents no problem.

Proviron has been used in female bodybuilding, but it has almost undoubtedly the worst ratio of anabolic effect to virilizing effect of any anabolic steroid in common use. The perceived value is in fat loss and “hardening,” but friendlier choices exist for this. Most of that value is from anti-estrogenic effect, which Nolvadex can also accomplish. And for an androgen component, there are better choices, including Primobolan.

Unlike almost all other orals, Proviron is not hepatotoxic, as it is not 17-alkylated.

Tablets are typically 25 mg, and taken one or two at a time. Amounts greater than this have no further effect on improving libido off-cycle, but if used for a specific occasion, whether on-cycle or off-cycle, may temporarily improve vascularity, if it is already noticeable but has room for improvement.
 
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