Aug 14, 2011 Almost all of these "cycles" are completely stupid IMO. Come on. Test and deca for 8 weeks? I would never recommend Deca for a first cycle, or even a 4th or 5th for that matter. The test will only have about 3-4 weeks to do anything at all. Since when is 750mg of test and 500mg of Deca a beginner cycle? Wanna see a good starter cycle? Test E - 500mg per week for 12 weeks Maybe throw in 25-30 of dbol for the first 4-5 weeks. Thats it. Nothing complex, and your balls will thank you. What to see a good intermediate cycle? Test E - 500-750mg per week for 14 weeks dbol - 30mg per day for the first 6 weeks EQ - 600mg per week for 14 weeks Both of these I think are much better cycles than anything I seen above.