Spot Injections- Do they really work?

[1bigun11]

What's up dw? Nice thread!

Warrior--just back away slowly and dont make any sudden moves.....lol.

 

[deadweight]

What's up dw? Nice thread!

Warrior--just back away slowly and dont make any sudden moves.....lol.

whats up bigun...thanks ...im glad your enjoying a real life experiance.....i hope all is well with you BIGUN........dw

 

[Warrior504th]

Your not going to experiance muscle growth injecting glutes...to big of a muscle over all.site injections with anabolics only are proven to work with your smaller muscle groups...U can Think u have it all figure out with what u say is common sense..But in the world of steroids what counts is self experiance..And i have over 26 years to show for it...No one cant tell me that site injecions dont work...im living proff that indeed it does..No matter what u say or what points u make its far from the truth...after drilling a certain muslce group after so long it will repond with growth...plain and simple...im not the only one on this board that will back up what im saying...sometimes reasoning is but a empty shell...You may think u know anabolic steroids?Maybe.?But i believe even the most schooled person wile much enlightened then most of the medical commurity,is still somewhat removed from the physical truth ...But in this sport understanding comes from experiance ..You can understand stuidies to your wits end but if you have no experiance in your knowledge..........then its only based on others people opinions... The reason why i havent flip a lid with you is because the topic is do with does site injections work...But let me make myself clear ive done hijacked this thread ..so this topic discussion is closed .Now it based on my experiance if u read threw u can get the big picture.....i dig your input but just like anything eles it just your oppion and not backd up with any soild proff other then classy words....On these boards it best to be a happy medium rather the some panel exert ...U come across like your one of those panel experts and we have enough of them....I read over other post u made and instead of giving your oppion you seem to be given the final answers like u know better.this will not carry u far on this board....No one will take u serious ..U havent put in any time to come across like your an expert .....i know i dont buy it....and neither does anyone eles for that matter......once again i hijacked this thread and made it out to be apart of my progress in site injections by my self experiance......If u want u can start your own thread and talk alll u want about its not logical then go for it.but your not going to throw a wet blanket on this thread.....its no longer up for discussion here..have a great fucking day..............dw

Nothing fancy about it big guy. I'm agreeing that fascia stretching is a critical factor, but I am saying to be careful what we identify. There are no fancy words, just possibilities, which I am trying to make more clear. I provided factual information that is typically common knowledge on many boards/areas that the hormone cannot act within the depot. But yes, if you put enough oil into a small enough muscle, fascia stretching will certainly aid growth.

Perhaps we are not disagreeing, I'm not sure. Just asking people to step back and take a solid look. Sure, injecting enough oil will stretch the fascia and stimulate growth. But why do we thank the hormone? Just curious.

 

[MAYO]

Warrior, I don't know you and am not slamming you by any means. This topic is an area that varies greatly from person to person and gets inflamed very easily. In the interest of civility I think it best that we state our "opinions" on the issue, not lay down the alleged laws of science. Spot injections have worked well for me, whatever the reason, and therefore I say yes. Others have had no success with it and they say no...both are correct. Let this sleeping dog lie bro....welcome to TID BTW.

MAYO

 

[Get Some]

Please tell me where anyone mentioned that site injection of hormones definitely causes site specific growth that can be attributed DIRECTLY to the site of the muscle injection? Anyone? Didn't think so. It's foolish to think that anyone is an "Expert" about anything these days. I consider myself to have a vast knowledge of the game, but still learn something new everyday. If you ever stop learning or think you know it all.... 100% you're wrong and get the fuck out.

Warrior...please explain the routine in detail that you use not involving synthol that works better than injections. DW uses so many hormones to begin with that he has no reason not to use them with site injections. He uses some sythol I know, but also runs a lot of gear. If you run a lot of gear you have to spread it out over your body. I'm really interested to hear about fascia stretching without the use of underlying pressure from a foreign substance. So, I think you should start your own thread on it.

As far as the actual thread goes....site injections are not for everyone. Think of it as NOS for your car. You don't utilize the NOS at 45mph in second gear, you us it when your engine is topped out in 5th or 6th gear for the extra boost. Same thing with site injections. If you've only run 1 cycle or have limited experience and still have a ton of room for growth then this isn't something you should even mildly be considering. If you've been stuck at similar numbers for a few years now and your growth has come to a standstill then this may be for you.

 

[KBD]

Nothing fancy about it big guy. I'm agreeing that fascia stretching is a critical factor, but I am saying to be careful what we identify. There are no fancy words, just possibilities, which I am trying to make more clear. I provided factual information that is typically common knowledge on many boards/areas that the hormone cannot act within the depot. But yes, if you put enough oil into a small enough muscle, fascia stretching will certainly aid growth.

Perhaps we are not disagreeing, I'm not sure. Just asking people to step back and take a solid look. Sure, injecting enough oil will stretch the fascia and stimulate growth. But why do we thank the hormone? Just curious.

As GS said its not for everyone. Ive stuck my right leg so much more than my left and my left is bigger than my right.

So as far as spot injections work for me. NOPE

 

[deadweight]

As GS said its not for everyone. Ive stuck my right leg so much more than my left and my left is bigger than my right.

So as far as spot injections work for me. NOPE

let me repeat myself one more time KBD..Site injections only work on smaller muscle groups such as biceps and traps ...Have u even used your biceps are a dart board yet?Or even your traps?,,,If you only limit yourself to large muscle groups no wonder u can say they dont work...You have hit those smaller muscle groups before u can make a final judgement....So really u dont know yet bro....Im done pounded my biceps and i have gained over 3 inches useing just anabolics.and this didnt come over night.This process tok years of sticking...Just as well as my traps..I blew them up so big i look like a freak show...That was just from useing anabolics....So untill u get around a few 100 injections on smaller muscle groups to see if it really works or not then u cant claim site injections dont work,,,,Im not ragging u bro,,,,i like u as a matter of fact...but i will state facts if needed...so go ahead and start sticking your biceps for a few years and then come back and make your claim....Then i would take your answer more serious...

 

[DIEZEL]

Im pretty sure in one of your threads you said your traps where freaky big from synthol and you had to drain the one to even them out, and the same goes for your bi's. So all your spot injects arent from just oil but synthol too correct?

 

[goldy]

let me repeat myself one more time KBD..Site injections only work on smaller muscle groups such as biceps and traps ...Have u even used your biceps are a dart board yet?Or even your traps?,,,If you only limit yourself to large muscle groups no wonder u can say they dont work...You have hit those smaller muscle groups before u can make a final judgement....So really u dont know yet bro....Im done pounded my biceps and i have gained over 3 inches useing just anabolics.and this didnt come over night.This process tok years of sticking...Just as well as my traps..I blew them up so big i look like a freak show...That was just from useing anabolics....So untill u get around a few 100 injections on smaller muscle groups to see if it really works or not then u cant claim site injections dont work,,,,Im not ragging u bro,,,,i like u as a matter of fact...but i will state facts if needed...so go ahead and start sticking your biceps for a few years and then come back and make your claim....Then i would take your answer more serious...

I am just curious. lets take bi's. say you shoot 1CC this week and they get sore as hell. next week not so bad. how much volume do you increase in the site once it acclimates to the volume you are using? 1/2 a cc bump? less? more? I am on TRT and am just wondering if it makes any sense to pin solely in my biceps when not blasting, aside from just being curious

 

[KBD]

let me repeat myself one more time KBD..Site injections only work on smaller muscle groups such as biceps and traps ...Have u even used your biceps are a dart board yet?Or even your traps?,,,If you only limit yourself to large muscle groups no wonder u can say they dont work...You have hit those smaller muscle groups before u can make a final judgement....So really u dont know yet bro....Im done pounded my biceps and i have gained over 3 inches useing just anabolics.and this didnt come over night.This process tok years of sticking...Just as well as my traps..I blew them up so big i look like a freak show...That was just from useing anabolics....So untill u get around a few 100 injections on smaller muscle groups to see if it really works or not then u cant claim site injections dont work,,,,Im not ragging u bro,,,,i like u as a matter of fact...but i will state facts if needed...so go ahead and start sticking your biceps for a few years and then come back and make your claim....Then i would take your answer more serious...

I said for ME deadweight. Didnt say it didnt work for you. But for me no it doesnt seem to work.

 

[SAD]

I am just curious. lets take bi's. say you shoot 1CC this week and they get sore as hell. next week not so bad. how much volume do you increase in the site once it acclimates to the volume you are using? 1/2 a cc bump? less? more? I am on TRT and am just wondering if it makes any sense to pin solely in my biceps when not blasting, aside from just being curious

Goldy, here's a little piece of advice that was posted on another site by our brother Mayo. It was a while back, but I still haven't read anything about site injections that paints the picture more clearly and logically than this.

Weeeellllll I guess I'm a dumbass.....apparently. I shoot bi's and tri's every week and guess what? THEY GROW. The "if site mattered, my legs, glutes would be huge as fuck" argument is an unreasonable comparison. Think about the total volume of the muscle versus the total volume of the injection.
*We will use arbitrary figures for this excercise so I won't acknowledge any volumetric debates from anyone.
-Let's say the medial bicep head on an individual has a total volume of 50cc, and we'll say that the Vastus Lateralus(part of the quad most inject) has a total volume of 1000cc.
-If one injects the aforementioned muscles, each with 1mL, different changes occur. In the bicep we have injected an amount occupying 2% of the total volume causing a significant increase in pressure against the fascia. This pressure causes the fascia to stretch and allows a less impeded muscle growth.....similar to synthol. In the VL region of the quadriceps the same 1mL injection would only occupy 0.1% of the total volume, 200x less than that of the bicep. Pressure would be significantly less and the opportunity for growth would not be the same.
It works for me, dont give a fuck what anybody else thinks Give it a shot, pun intended, worst case scenario: you don't like it.

My 2c........MAYO



So basically, and this is my take on it, you wouldn't ever need to increase the injection volume unless your arms became so massive that a given amount of oil was no longer enough to stretch the fascia. This also is an example of what deadweight has been saying all along about large muscle groups not having the same site injection effect as smaller muscles.

Hope this helps.

 

[goldy]

Goldy, here's a little piece of advice that was posted on another site by our brother Mayo. It was a while back, but I still haven't read anything about site injections that paints the picture more clearly and logically than this.

Weeeellllll I guess I'm a dumbass.....apparently. I shoot bi's and tri's every week and guess what? THEY GROW. The "if site mattered, my legs, glutes would be huge as fuck" argument is an unreasonable comparison. Think about the total volume of the muscle versus the total volume of the injection.
*We will use arbitrary figures for this excercise so I won't acknowledge any volumetric debates from anyone.
-Let's say the medial bicep head on an individual has a total volume of 50cc, and we'll say that the Vastus Lateralus(part of the quad most inject) has a total volume of 1000cc.
-If one injects the aforementioned muscles, each with 1mL, different changes occur. In the bicep we have injected an amount occupying 2% of the total volume causing a significant increase in pressure against the fascia. This pressure causes the fascia to stretch and allows a less impeded muscle growth.....similar to synthol. In the VL region of the quadriceps the same 1mL injection would only occupy 0.1% of the total volume, 200x less than that of the bicep. Pressure would be significantly less and the opportunity for growth would not be the same.
It works for me, dont give a fuck what anybody else thinks Give it a shot, pun intended, worst case scenario: you don't like it.

My 2c........MAYO



So basically, and this is my take on it, you wouldn't ever need to increase the injection volume unless your arms became so massive that a given amount of oil was no longer enough to stretch the fascia. This also is an example of what deadweight has been saying all along about large muscle groups not having the same site injection effect as smaller muscles.

Hope this helps.

good shit. i have 2 body parts that have always lagged behind everything else. back and bi's. i figure wtf, why not hit the bis with every shot. and yeah being the smallest muscle group i would assume the best results. i couldn't imagine doing quad shots would ever get anyone anywhere unless they were a midget or something.