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shibs
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- Jan 18, 2011
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you guys are skeptics! the dieselbolan is a tried product, so is the forma-stanzol, the unleashed, the post-cycle, and the phytoserms-347. I completely disagree with the nolva/clomid pct's of yesterday. They're ancient news and they mess with you way too much. I know many people who have used these products with great results, and I know the maker of them as well. Hell I've even used them with great results! So i know personally that this shit is real. It may all be otc, but if you haven't tried it and you don't know about it, you can't bash it. you have to open up a little bit.
Reminds me, have you guys heard of hcgenerate? It's a great product, and the same guy that makes it makes these above products.
I think you get my point
really guys open up your mind a bit!
and for all the products...
unleashed releases free test without suppressing hpta,
post cycle lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength
forma-stanzolol is a topical anti-e
dieselbolan is a tried and true ph, more suited for mass gains.
phytoserms-347 is test booster
Reminds me, have you guys heard of hcgenerate? It's a great product, and the same guy that makes it makes these above products.
I think you get my point
really guys open up your mind a bit! and for all the products...
unleashed releases free test without suppressing hpta,
post cycle lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength
forma-stanzolol is a topical anti-e
dieselbolan is a tried and true ph, more suited for mass gains.
phytoserms-347 is test booster
tommyguns2
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- Dec 25, 2010
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I would recommend running the prohormone by itself so you can see what it does, rather than throwing it in the mix where you won't be able to ID what it's doing vs. the test.
But that stuff certainly won't hurt your cycle, so go for it.
More importantly, what are the goals of your cycle, and what is your diet gonna look like?
But that stuff certainly won't hurt your cycle, so go for it.
More importantly, what are the goals of your cycle, and what is your diet gonna look like?
big_paul_ski
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- Dec 13, 2010
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you guys are skeptics! the dieselbolan is a tried product, so is the forma-stanzol, the unleashed, the post-cycle, and the phytoserms-347. I completely disagree with the nolva/clomid pct's of yesterday. they're ancient news and they mess with you way too much. I know many people who have used these products with great results, and I know the maker of them as well. Hell I've even used them with great results! So i know personally that this shit is real. It may all be otc, but if you haven't tried it and you don't know about it, you can't bash it. you have to open up a little bit.
Reminds me, have you guys heard of hcgenerate? It's a great product, and the same guy that makes it makes these above products.
I think you get my point
and for all the products...
unleashed releases free test without suppressing hpta,
post cycle lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength
forma-stanzolol is a topical anti-e
dieselbolan is a tried and true ph, more suited for mass gains.
phytoserms-347 is test booster
im sorry but i cant get into this nonsence. a topical anti e? your on test your hpta will be surpressed, test is great for mass so why add a toxic PH? you say phytoserms-347 is test booster? why the fuck do you need a test booster when your on real test? i can go on and on my good man but this is some of the most ridiculous shit i have seen in a long time. sorry if i pissed you off but it was frustrating for me. good luck.
Dangling Unit
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- Jan 2, 2011
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say you've never tried Nolvadex or Clomid. I've had both, from a pharmacy, and didn't experience what you say.
I've got my diet down, and I've ran similar ph's to the dieselbolan so i'm not too worried. i'm gonna be trying to bulk up a lot and maybe start cutting my carbs the last 4 weeks if i decide to start the winny. to cut off some fat. all in all just excited to start
You're going to use testosterone enanthate for 12-weeks, but thinking about dropping carbs the last 4-weeks and run Winstrol? So, an 8-week bulker with an enanthate ester as your base? Run Winstrol for 4-weeks? You have a lot more research to do.
I was thinking the same, but it sounds like this cat will run what he wants, no matter what we say.
tommyguns2
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- Dec 25, 2010
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DU, you still running TD? I'm running prop and tren ace via TD at 100mg/day with winny (oxide). Have dropped from 234 to 223 with a drop in my carbs, so I'm flat as all get-out, but the six pack is coming in nicely! Looking to get down to about 215 which should put me below 10% BF before I take my sweetie down to South Beach for a long weekend....
Good to see you here bro! I look forward to bouncing stuff off of you.
Good to see you here bro! I look forward to bouncing stuff off of you.
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RADAR
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- Jan 19, 2011
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Wow! i didn't realizse HCGENERATE was mentioned here ,
I won;t go without it
Heres the rundown
HCGenerate uses fadogia agrestis as one of the active ingredients to stimulate the leydig cells. As men age, the leydig cells activity decreases, putting strain on the pituitary gland- which in turn causes low levels of testosterone production. As the leydig cells are stimulated, the pituitary can begin to function at a normal pace and produce a higher concentration of both free testosterone and total serum levels.
The advantage to using HCGenerate on cycle is that it reduces HPTA shutdown by keeping the leydig cells stimulated, and makes transition into Post Cycle Therapy very smooth. Use of exogenous testosterone or harsh oral cycles puts the body’s natural production to a halt and causes erectile dysfunction, elevated estrogen levels, and in a lot of cases could cost you the hard earned gains achieved on cycle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin or HCG is often used by body builders to minimize HPTA shutdown. This also allows for our libido to remain unaffected on cycle, and in many cases increases libido. The downside to using this compound is that it is illegal and must be administered via a subcutaneous injection several times weekly.
HCGenerate can also be used as a stand-alone testosterone booster to help elevate natural test levels!
The addition of Tribulus Terrestris and Zinc are to help the body produce at its peak levels. When you hit the gym hard, you don’t want to half ass it! You want to get in there, kill it and get out! The added aggression in the gym is there to help you break plateaus and set new records!
Let’s talk about recovery. We’ve covered the issue natural test production after using anabolics but what about your post cycle therapy? While your body is reaching homeostasis,
HCGenerate can help to improve your HDL, which is often compromised on oral cycles.
It also will help to stimulate the natural production of testosterone, helping bring natural levels back to normal fast so you can keep your gains. Libido normally suffers when test production is shut down, so again stimulation of natural production of test signaled in the pituitary helps to keep your performance at a maximum.
Spare yourself the legal issues, and put less stress on your body’s endocrine system!
Highlights:
· Helps prevent erectile dysfunction
· May help keep muscle gains
· Assists in liver function
· Promotes better mood and feelings of well being
· Prevents rapid reductions in IGF
. Prevents shut down while on cycle
. Promotes natural testosterone production
· Improves HDL
· TOTALLY Legal
· NO injections
Get the most out of your gains and the most out of your libido! This is truly a 3 in 1 innovative product available only from Need To Build Muscle!
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Percent Daily Values not established.
HCGenerate Warning:
Consult your physician before using this product. It is not intended for use by individuals under 18 years of age or woman. Do not use or combine with other dietary supplements. Do not use if you have or are being treated for prostate hypertrophy, cancer, heart, liver, cardiovascular, kidney, thyroid disease, high blood pressure, low HDL, taking antidepressants, MAO inhibitors, or any other prescription drugs. Do not exceed suggested servings. Do not exceed 12 weeks continuous use. Possible side effects may include: acne, heightened sex drive, and increased levels of testosterone.
The best part is if it doesn't meet your expecatioms there is a 100% money back guarantee ,so you can't mess up!
I won;t go without it
Heres the rundown
HCGenerate uses fadogia agrestis as one of the active ingredients to stimulate the leydig cells. As men age, the leydig cells activity decreases, putting strain on the pituitary gland- which in turn causes low levels of testosterone production. As the leydig cells are stimulated, the pituitary can begin to function at a normal pace and produce a higher concentration of both free testosterone and total serum levels.
The advantage to using HCGenerate on cycle is that it reduces HPTA shutdown by keeping the leydig cells stimulated, and makes transition into Post Cycle Therapy very smooth. Use of exogenous testosterone or harsh oral cycles puts the body’s natural production to a halt and causes erectile dysfunction, elevated estrogen levels, and in a lot of cases could cost you the hard earned gains achieved on cycle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin or HCG is often used by body builders to minimize HPTA shutdown. This also allows for our libido to remain unaffected on cycle, and in many cases increases libido. The downside to using this compound is that it is illegal and must be administered via a subcutaneous injection several times weekly.
HCGenerate can also be used as a stand-alone testosterone booster to help elevate natural test levels!
The addition of Tribulus Terrestris and Zinc are to help the body produce at its peak levels. When you hit the gym hard, you don’t want to half ass it! You want to get in there, kill it and get out! The added aggression in the gym is there to help you break plateaus and set new records!
Let’s talk about recovery. We’ve covered the issue natural test production after using anabolics but what about your post cycle therapy? While your body is reaching homeostasis,
HCGenerate can help to improve your HDL, which is often compromised on oral cycles.
It also will help to stimulate the natural production of testosterone, helping bring natural levels back to normal fast so you can keep your gains. Libido normally suffers when test production is shut down, so again stimulation of natural production of test signaled in the pituitary helps to keep your performance at a maximum.
Spare yourself the legal issues, and put less stress on your body’s endocrine system!
Highlights:
· Helps prevent erectile dysfunction
· May help keep muscle gains
· Assists in liver function
· Promotes better mood and feelings of well being
· Prevents rapid reductions in IGF
. Prevents shut down while on cycle
. Promotes natural testosterone production
· Improves HDL
· TOTALLY Legal
· NO injections
Get the most out of your gains and the most out of your libido! This is truly a 3 in 1 innovative product available only from Need To Build Muscle!
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Percent Daily Values not established.
HCGenerate Warning:
Consult your physician before using this product. It is not intended for use by individuals under 18 years of age or woman. Do not use or combine with other dietary supplements. Do not use if you have or are being treated for prostate hypertrophy, cancer, heart, liver, cardiovascular, kidney, thyroid disease, high blood pressure, low HDL, taking antidepressants, MAO inhibitors, or any other prescription drugs. Do not exceed suggested servings. Do not exceed 12 weeks continuous use. Possible side effects may include: acne, heightened sex drive, and increased levels of testosterone.
The best part is if it doesn't meet your expecatioms there is a 100% money back guarantee ,so you can't mess up!
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