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MuscleHead
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N2G....I think the main problem or the reason you were invited here in the first place was to defend your products that were getting "bashed." The thing about this forum is we do not need someone trying to slang their products in nearly every post they make. Trust me, LK and I have gotten on some members for doing such, even in the chatbox. This forum is meant to discuss bodybuilding, powerlifting, and the products involved.

I get that you run a business with products that you are trying to sell. But, when someone makes these kind of marketing-aimed posts repeatedly it gets annoying...

you guys are skeptics! the dieselbolan is a tried product, so is the forma-stanzol, the unleashed, the post-cycle, and the phytoserms-347. I completely disagree with the nolva/clomid pct's of yesterday. They're ancient news and they mess with you way too much. I know many people who have used these products with great results, and I know the maker of them as well. Hell I've even used them with great results! So i know personally that this shit is real. It may all be otc, but if you haven't tried it and you don't know about it, you can't bash it. you have to open up a little bit.

Reminds me, have you guys heard of hcgenerate? It's a great product, and the same guy that makes it makes these above products.
I think you get my point :) really guys open up your mind a bit!

and for all the products...

unleashed releases free test without suppressing hpta,

post cycle lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength

forma-stanzolol is a topical anti-e

dieselbolan is a tried and true ph, more suited for mass gains.

phytoserms-347 is test booster
Wow! i didn't realizse HCGENERATE was mentioned here ,
I won;t go without it
Heres the rundown

HCGenerate uses fadogia agrestis as one of the active ingredients to stimulate the leydig cells. As men age, the leydig cells activity decreases, putting strain on the pituitary gland- which in turn causes low levels of testosterone production. As the leydig cells are stimulated, the pituitary can begin to function at a normal pace and produce a higher concentration of both free testosterone and total serum levels.


The advantage to using HCGenerate on cycle is that it reduces HPTA shutdown by keeping the leydig cells stimulated, and makes transition into Post Cycle Therapy very smooth. Use of exogenous testosterone or harsh oral cycles puts the body’s natural production to a halt and causes erectile dysfunction, elevated estrogen levels, and in a lot of cases could cost you the hard earned gains achieved on cycle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin or HCG is often used by body builders to minimize HPTA shutdown. This also allows for our libido to remain unaffected on cycle, and in many cases increases libido. The downside to using this compound is that it is illegal and must be administered via a subcutaneous injection several times weekly.


HCGenerate can also be used as a stand-alone testosterone booster to help elevate natural test levels!


The addition of Tribulus Terrestris and Zinc are to help the body produce at its peak levels. When you hit the gym hard, you don’t want to half ass it! You want to get in there, kill it and get out! The added aggression in the gym is there to help you break plateaus and set new records!


Let’s talk about recovery. We’ve covered the issue natural test production after using anabolics but what about your post cycle therapy? While your body is reaching homeostasis,


HCGenerate can help to improve your HDL, which is often compromised on oral cycles.


It also will help to stimulate the natural production of testosterone, helping bring natural levels back to normal fast so you can keep your gains. Libido normally suffers when test production is shut down, so again stimulation of natural production of test signaled in the pituitary helps to keep your performance at a maximum.

Spare yourself the legal issues, and put less stress on your body’s endocrine system!

Highlights:

· Helps prevent erectile dysfunction
· May help keep muscle gains
· Assists in liver function
· Promotes better mood and feelings of well being
· Prevents rapid reductions in IGF
. Prevents shut down while on cycle

. Promotes natural testosterone production

· Improves HDL
· TOTALLY Legal
· NO injections

Get the most out of your gains and the most out of your libido! This is truly a 3 in 1 innovative product available only from Need To Build Muscle!

"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."

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** Percent Daily Values not established.

HCGenerate Warning:


Consult your physician before using this product. It is not intended for use by individuals under 18 years of age or woman. Do not use or combine with other dietary supplements. Do not use if you have or are being treated for prostate hypertrophy, cancer, heart, liver, cardiovascular, kidney, thyroid disease, high blood pressure, low HDL, taking antidepressants, MAO inhibitors, or any other prescription drugs. Do not exceed suggested servings. Do not exceed 12 weeks continuous use. Possible side effects may include: acne, heightened sex drive, and increased levels of testosterone.

The best part is if it doesn't meet your expecatioms there is a 100% money back guarantee ,so you can't mess up!
What are your guys' favorite pro-hormones? For me I LOVE beastdrol, if you haven't heard of it check it out. A 4 week cycle of it gave me 40lbs on my bench max and much more on my squat and deadlift, plus 12lbs of lean muscle. It's at mrsupps.com Next I'm gonna try out dieselbolan by the same people, using it as a kickstart to my test-e cycle. Very excited :) What do you guys use?
the liposhred stack has some great reviews that i've read. it works pretty well

You see what I'm getting at here? I don't mind when you mention stuff that works for you but when it seems like blatant representation of a single company it get's old. Like I've always said, we want you all here, just try to be understanding of what the majority of the member base here is used to. They don't really want you to tell them to try PHs and over the counter PCT stuff. They're not gonna try to fix something that isn't broken....yet at least :)
 
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I know it seems like I'm trying to push products, but I'm definitely speaking from personal experiences here. There are a ton of people who have in fact tried these products and would also vouch for them. I'm not trying to make this guy (need2) money, I'm trying to let people know that there are some good otc products out there. When I first started lifting, I didn't take any of need2's products, I got caught up in the hype, tried one or two, and it just took off from there. I actually started buying them because I knew they would work. Now, when I see people saying "I tried this and it didn't do shit" I know that I can point them to something with proven results.

And as far as need2 as a person goes, I haven't met anyone more willing to help people than him. He seriously gives all of his time to people seeking his advice, and if I wanted I could call his personal phone number on his card/website and get an answer from him, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if he offered you guys something right now.

All this being said, I'm just here to help people. I know what works so you can't blame me for turning people onto it. I got invited by someone from here to come to this forum and join up with my experiences and advice. I'm just asking for a chance here, if you guys don't want to take my advice then that's fine. I'd rather keep the goodies to myself anyways :) And I'd definitely give need2 a chance, he has more to offer than you could imagine. Just don't flame him he's a good guy.
 
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MuscleHead
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I know it seems like I'm trying to push products, but I'm definitely speaking from personal experiences here. There are a ton of people who have in fact tried these products and would also vouch for them. I'm not trying to make this guy (need2) money, I'm trying to let people know that there are some good otc products out there. When I first started lifting, I didn't take any of need2's products, I got caught up in the hype, tried one or two, and it just took off from there. I actually started buying them because I knew they would work. Now, when I see people saying "I tried this and it didn't do shit" I know that I can point them to something with proven results.

And as far as need2 as a person goes, I haven't met anyone more willing to help people than him. He seriously gives all of his time to people seeking his advice, and if I wanted I could call his personal phone number on his card/website and get an answer from him, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if he offered you guys something right now.

All this being said, I'm just here to help people. I know what works so you can't blame me for turning people onto it. I got invited by someone from here to come to this forum and join up with my experiences and advice. I'm just asking for a chance here, if you guys don't want to take my advice then that's fine. I'd rather keep the goodies to myself anyways :) And I'd definitely give need2 a chance, he has more to offer than you could imagine. Just don't flame him he's a good guy.
I'm not flaming anyone bro :) and I do appreciate your opinion. Like I said, myself, the Mod staff, and admin would all like for you to be here and participate. It sucks that N2G had to come over here because someone told him to through a link. However, if he has knowledge to offer then I'm all for it. Don't shy away from posting informational threads or threads that you think would benefit our members.

The only thing I was getting at was direct marketing of products. It happens occasionally but we should try to avoid it as a board. Drama free is the best way to be. If you guys ever have any problems, please feel free to PM me (damn, I can HEAR my inbox filling up, lol). But seriously, Im here, just gimme a shout....
 
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shibs

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I'm not flaming anyone bro :) and I do appreciate your opinion. Like I said, myself, the Mod staff, and admin would all like for you to be here and participate. It sucks that N2G had to come over here because someone told him to through a link. However, if he has knowledge to offer then I'm all for it. Don't shy away from posting informational threads or threads that you think would benefit our members.

The only thing I was getting at was direct marketing of products. It happens occasionally but we should try to avoid it as a board. Drama free is the best way to be. If you guys ever have any problems, please feel free to PM me (damn, I can HEAR my inbox filling up, lol). But seriously, Im here, just gimme a shout....
Cool bro, I appreciate it! I'll try to tone down a bit, didn't mean to come off like I did!
 
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