My next bulk cycle...assistance please!

[PillarofBalance]

You don't need shitloads of compounds, nor high doses for your first bunch of cycles (typically). You're fresh and your body will make gains given small amounts of assistance from AAS.

So chill out, slow down - take a step back and seriously look at what you're doing. You may be dosing yourself to a point where you are making the same gains as you would with half the gear, only now you have to contend with a bunch of ugly sides cause your doses are too high.

I'd say read this and follow it http://www.theironden.com/aas-cycle-discussion/414-first-cycle-all-you-need-know.html

Run a simple cycle of 500 Test Enanthate and some Dbol pre-workout for the first four weeks. Hell, make it six weeks on the dbol at 30mg's and you'll make fantastic gains! Plus you're endocrine system will be healthier, and you'll have more money in your pocket for porn which you'll need...

Good luck bro, I hope you take the advice instead of being a smart ass know it all KID who asks a question but never accepts what he's told by those who came before him.

 

[emedic]

Ty I will take all the advice given and will read up more! Saving money for porn that made my day lmao! Ty for thT...I'll post up what I have done with dosages n everything in a few hours I am posting from iPhone now n will wait till I get behind my computer . I see what u mean about sides vs enough test or aas ! I take blood in a few days n will let u know the results then.. Ty

 

[ajdos]

well said

also you have listed 4 orals / 17a steroids . there is no need to put that kind of stress on your liver when there are plenty of injectable options out there.

a simple test / deca or test eq cycle is plenty for 99% of second cycle users .

slow and steady wins the race .

Completely agree, the fact your asking is a good sign you dont have the neccesary experience to be running gear like that.
Test eq -test deca both good suggestions.

 

[HisAngriness]

Ty I will take all the advice given and will read up more! Saving money for porn that made my day lmao! Ty for thT...I'll post up what I have done with dosages n everything in a few hours I am posting from iPhone now n will wait till I get behind my computer . I see what u mean about sides vs enough test or aas ! I take blood in a few days n will let u know the results then.. Ty

if you're currently taking Nolva and still in PCT then your bloodwork really isnt gonna tell you much right now.
you should wait a couple months POST PCT in order to evaluate your TRUE numbers and go from there. did you get any bloodwork before you started the first cycle?

 

[Ogre717]

whith what you listed as a previous cycle, i am kinda surprised at the low gains. 15 CLEAN lbs is definitely on the low side for a cycle like that unless you werent taking the calories you needed or werent training like you should have been. either way i dont think you are ready for such a complex cycle. i think you need to focus more on what you are eating and how you are training with a cycle of: 4-500 test e weeks 1-10, 400 eq weeks 1-12, 30-40 d-bol ED 2weeks 1-4, and thern standard PCT. it seems like you are in a huge rush to start this but you dont seem to have the knowledge. take your time bro. the more time you put into this the better quality look you will receive. trust me, i have been there before wanting to throw a bunch of compounds into my next cycle and cutting my time off cycle down. take it easy or you are going to start working against yourself. like i said before, i dont think you really got all you should have outts your last cycle. DIET, TRAINING AND REST. without those three your wasting your time, money and gear.

 

[jackhammer]

agree, more research is needed. if it were my second cycle. it would be 12wks testE 500-750mg and deca 400-600mg. depending on what you took first cycle and how you responded. how much you weigh now. think 20mg nolv a day would be fine. keep some adex or aromasin on hand just incase. aromasin is good with pct too and hdl cholest sparring