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2ez
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go to a MD and allow him to prescribe whats necessary. BP is one of many things I would not mess with on my own. there are many causes of HTN. you could be treating the symptom and not the cause. I have seen Patients get ****ed by not properly treating this.
sorry, just don't want you cats to get into a challenging predictament that may not be reversible.
sorry, just don't want you cats to get into a challenging predictament that may not be reversible.
DieYoungStrong
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Jesus that is just cold. Highest I've ever heard of someone without a heart attack or stroke was my old man. He was 242/113. They kept him in the hospital for 3 days.
My wife's fat, obese co-worker is on BP meds. She decided to stop taking them and had a minor stroke. Same with her uncle, but he had a minor heart attack. I guess that's Darwinism, but the point is that you just can't stop the meds cold turkey.
That's the problem with self-medicating with BP meds, especially those who get gear BP - like myself, and come off the meds after. There can be some really nasty BP spikes if you don't come off properly, and you are potentially setting yourself up for a stroke or worse. Bystolic especially can cause major problems when stopping use.
I ran lisinopril on my last big blast, titrated the dose down properly when I went back on cruise, and still dealt with some nasty BP spikes and palpitations while my body re-adjusted. That shit freaks me out, which makes it worse. I felt like shit for awhile, and since then, I've decided I'm just not going to run doses or blasts that spike my BP high enough for meds. IMO it can be safer to deal with BP of 150/90ish for a 10 week blast, and coming back down to normal within a few weeks of the blast, then playing Russian roulette with with meds. My Dr says it will take a long time for bad effects to build up with that BP, and if a normal, healthy aside from the BP, patient came in with 150/90 BP, he would have them try dietary and cardio changes for 6 months to a year before he started with medication.
I'm 120/80 right now cruising. If I run something like 500mg of test and some nand with a little dbol, I will be mid-130's/mid 80s in the am, and anywhere from 145-155/85-95 in the PM. When I ran a 2G total stack, I was 165-175/95-105 all the time, which is terrible, and I self-medicated. I just felt like shit the whole cycle, and had some really good advice on the BP meds. Was able to keep myself around 135-140/85-90 with lisinopril, but I'd just rather keep the doses small and avoid the meds.
TL/DR - if you need BP meds you really should have a good Dr and have him set you up with a proper protocol.
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Ramrod
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Interesting
http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.co...lood-pressure-medications-promote-weight-loss
I was on Lisinopril for a couple of years, but my Test Lvls started dropping about the same time I started it. So he switched me off of it to [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]amlodipine a Calcium Channel Blocker. Haven't noticed much difference between the two really. Neither seem to effect my workouts any.[/FONT]
http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.co...lood-pressure-medications-promote-weight-loss
I was on Lisinopril for a couple of years, but my Test Lvls started dropping about the same time I started it. So he switched me off of it to [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]amlodipine a Calcium Channel Blocker. Haven't noticed much difference between the two really. Neither seem to effect my workouts any.[/FONT]
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