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Lab result during cycle? any advise? How to read results?

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Shamrockbear1

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Dec 24, 2011
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Okay so I have always had my doc do my labs this year doing my own so need some advice on what to look for and what my current labs say im on cycle right now... Your help is appreciated!!! Some of the stuff came back high or low but I dont know how to reference it while being on gear... thanks



Test Name----- Result Flag------- Reference Range Lab
WBC 6.4 --------------------c4.0-10.5 x10E3/uL CB
RBC 5.20 ==========4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL CB
Hemoglobin 15.0 ----------12.6-17.7 g/dL CB
Hematocrit 44.3 ---------37.5-51.0 % CB
MCV 85 -------------------79-97 fL CB
MCH 28.8 ----------------26.6-33.0 pg CB
MCHC 33.9 --------------31.5-35.7 g/dL CB
RDW 14.5----------------- 12.3-15.4 % CB
Platelets 240----------- 140-415 x10E3/uL CB
Neutrophils 68 -----------40-74 % CB
Lymphs 21 --------------14-46 % CB
Monocytes 8 --------------4-13 % CB
Eos 3 ----------------0-7 % CB
Basos 0 --------------0-3 % CB
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.4 -------------1.8-7.8 x10E3/uL CB
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.3-------------- 0.7-4.5 x10E3/uL CB
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.5----------- 0.1-1.0 x10E3/uL CB
Eos (Absolute) 0.2 ------------------0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL CB
Baso (Absolute) 0.0----------------- 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL CB
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 ---------0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL CB
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 93 -------------------65-99 mg/dL CB
BUN 31 -------HIGH ------------6-24 mg/dL CB
Creatinine, Serum 1.22 -----------0.76-1.27 mg/dL CB
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 25 -------HIGH--------- 9-20 CB
Sodium, Serum 142 -----------134-144 mmol/L CB
Potassium, Serum 3.8 ----------3.5-5.2 mmol/L CB
Chloride, Serum 101 ---------97-108 mmol/L CB
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 -------19-28 mmol/L CB
Calcium, Serum 9.3 --------8.7-10.2 mg/dL CB
Protein, Total, Serum 7.2 ----------6.0-8.5 g/dL CB
Albumin, Serum 4.4 ----------3.5-5.5 g/dL CB
Globulin, Total 2.8-------- 1.5-4.5 g/dL CB
A/G Ratio 1.6 -----------1.1-2.5 CB
Bilirubin, Total 0.4 --------0.0-1.2 mg/dL CB
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 31---- LOW ------44-102 IU/L CB
AST (SGOT) 47 HIGH ------0-40 IU/L CB
ALT (SGPT) 52 HIGH -------0-44 IU/L CB
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum >1500========= HIGH ======348-1197 ng/dL CB
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), SLH 0.1 -----LOW --------1.7-8.6 mIU/mL CB
FSH, Serum-FSH 0.2----- LOW------ 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL CB
Estradiol-----Estradiol--- 44.9 -----HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL CB
 
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tkrex

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I'm no expert but those number look normal for a cycle...might hit a little Adex to drop the estrogen but don't overdo it
 
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Lunchbox

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Jul 29, 2013
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Okay so I have always had my doc do my labs this year doing my own so need some advice on what to look for and what my current labs say im on cycle right now... Your help is appreciated!!! Some of the stuff came back high or low but I dont know how to reference it while being on gear... thanks



Test Name----- Result Flag------- Reference Range Lab
WBC 6.4 --------------------c4.0-10.5 x10E3/uL CB
RBC 5.20 ==========4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL CB
Hemoglobin 15.0 ----------12.6-17.7 g/dL CB
Hematocrit 44.3 ---------37.5-51.0 % CB
MCV 85 -------------------79-97 fL CB
MCH 28.8 ----------------26.6-33.0 pg CB
MCHC 33.9 --------------31.5-35.7 g/dL CB
RDW 14.5----------------- 12.3-15.4 % CB
Platelets 240----------- 140-415 x10E3/uL CB
Neutrophils 68 -----------40-74 % CB
Lymphs 21 --------------14-46 % CB
Monocytes 8 --------------4-13 % CB
Eos 3 ----------------0-7 % CB
Basos 0 --------------0-3 % CB
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.4 -------------1.8-7.8 x10E3/uL CB
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.3-------------- 0.7-4.5 x10E3/uL CB
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.5----------- 0.1-1.0 x10E3/uL CB
Eos (Absolute) 0.2 ------------------0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL CB
Baso (Absolute) 0.0----------------- 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL CB
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 ---------0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL CB
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 93 -------------------65-99 mg/dL CB
BUN 31 -------HIGH ------------6-24 mg/dL CB
Creatinine, Serum 1.22 -----------0.76-1.27 mg/dL CB
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 25 -------HIGH--------- 9-20 CB
Sodium, Serum 142 -----------134-144 mmol/L CB
Potassium, Serum 3.8 ----------3.5-5.2 mmol/L CB
Chloride, Serum 101 ---------97-108 mmol/L CB
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 -------19-28 mmol/L CB
Calcium, Serum 9.3 --------8.7-10.2 mg/dL CB
Protein, Total, Serum 7.2 ----------6.0-8.5 g/dL CB
Albumin, Serum 4.4 ----------3.5-5.5 g/dL CB
Globulin, Total 2.8-------- 1.5-4.5 g/dL CB
A/G Ratio 1.6 -----------1.1-2.5 CB
Bilirubin, Total 0.4 --------0.0-1.2 mg/dL CB
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 31---- LOW ------44-102 IU/L CB
AST (SGOT) 47 HIGH ------0-40 IU/L CB
ALT (SGPT) 52 HIGH -------0-44 IU/L CB
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum >1500========= HIGH ======348-1197 ng/dL CB
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), SLH 0.1 -----LOW --------1.7-8.6 mIU/mL CB
FSH, Serum-FSH 0.2----- LOW------ 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL CB
Estradiol-----Estradiol--- 44.9 -----HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL CB

Are you fasted when blood was drawn?

What kinda cycle you running?

How many weeks in?

Are you on an AI?
 
TheClap

TheClap

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Are you fasted when blood was drawn?
What kinda cycle you running?
How many weeks in?
Are you on an AI?

Hey buddy, good to see you actually posting somewhere.

Okay OP here is a quick little down and dirty of your test results...

1) RBC, HGB, HCT are all normal. That's very good. A lot of us get polycithemic on even a TRT dose and have to donate blood... or some just chose to ignore that this puts them at risk for little inconveniences like, DVT, pulmonary embolisms and ischemic stroke... you know, little things like that.

2) BUN was high because you eat a lot of protein... or maybe were a bit dehydrated, that one is fine.

3) GREAT NEWS, creatinine was down within the normal range. That means your kidneys are functioning well. BBers and other athletes generally have a higher creatinine than a normal person from all the lifting. Don't even worry about the ratio. It's just from your elevated BUN.

4) Liver enzymes were a little out of whack. Not nearly enough to be concerned about. Don't drink on cycle, don't take too much Tylenol (though NSAIDs should be used even more sparingly IMO, but that's a topic for another day). If you aren't running any PO (oral) AAS, and aren't drinking etc... that would be a little odd for your AST/ALP to be up like that. But if you have a PO anything in there that explains it.

5) I don't even know why people bother getting any hormone levels checked while on cycle except estradiol. Total waste of money. If you're on a cycle your test will always be high, LH and FSH will be essentially non-existant every time unless your gear is totally fake. Better to check your Test level when running a TRT dose as that will give you an idea about whether or not your stuff is underdosed.

Next time save the $ if testing mid cycle and spend it getting a lipid panel or checking your PSA.
 
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Lunchbox

Member
Jul 29, 2013
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Hey buddy, good to see you actually posting somewhere.

Okay OP here is a quick little down and dirty of your test results...

1) RBC, HGB, HCT are all normal. That's very good. A lot of us get polycithemic on even a TRT dose and have to donate blood... or some just chose to ignore that this puts them at risk for little inconveniences like, DVT, pulmonary embolisms and ischemic stroke... you know, little things like that.

2) BUN was high because you eat a lot of protein... or maybe were a bit dehydrated, that one is fine.

3) GREAT NEWS, creatinine was down within the normal range. That means your kidneys are functioning well. BBers and other athletes generally have a higher creatinine than a normal person from all the lifting. Don't even worry about the ratio. It's just from your elevated BUN.

4) Liver enzymes were a little out of whack. Not nearly enough to be concerned about. Don't drink on cycle, don't take too much Tylenol (though NSAIDs should be used even more sparingly IMO, but that's a topic for another day). If you aren't running any PO (oral) AAS, and aren't drinking etc... that would be a little odd for your AST/ALP to be up like that. But if you have a PO anything in there that explains it.

5) I don't even know why people bother getting any hormone levels checked while on cycle except estradiol. Total waste of money. If you're on a cycle your test will always be high, LH and FSH will be essentially non-existant every time unless your gear is totally fake. Better to check your Test level when running a TRT dose as that will give you an idea about whether or not your stuff is underdosed.

Next time save the $ if testing mid cycle and spend it getting a lipid panel or checking your PSA.

I lurk a lot. Post quite a bit on some other boards but read through this one on a regular basis. :D

OP - Everything stated above is spot on. I would add to be sure and be fasted for any bloodwork. Its a waste of money not to do so and take advantage of the complete panel.

Have fun with your cycle!!

Eat lean and trian hard.
 
Dex

Dex

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I'd say BUN is a bit high. Drink more water!
 
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Shamrockbear1

MuscleHead
Dec 24, 2011
315
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Well yes first 8 weeks I was on adrol and dbol stopped that about 3 weeks ago. I have another 5 weeks of test. 750 and eq 900... Also I. Taking adex 1.5mg a week, .5 mg mwf. I have read that my estradiol should be in the 20-30 range
Also I have To admit I occasional cocktail...
Brings me to my next question I was considering doing a liver and kidney function test to check levels ect is it worth getting it done?
 
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Lunchbox

Member
Jul 29, 2013
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Well yes first 8 weeks I was on adrol and dbol stopped that about 3 weeks ago. I have another 5 weeks of test. 750 and eq 900... Also I. Taking adex 1.5mg a week, .5 mg mwf. I have read that my estradiol should be in the 20-30 range
Also I have To admit I occasional cocktail...
Brings me to my next question I was considering doing a liver and kidney function test to check levels ect is it worth getting it done?

Only 3 weeks off the orals coyld explain the AST ALT levels.

EQ at 900 a week has been known to increase RBC count. Although there have been folks who have not had that issue when running EQ, like yours truly.

Your regiment of Adex is fine for the amount of test your running. Some like to crush E2 even further. Are you experiencing any estrogen related sides? If not then in my opinion you don't need to change that aspect.

Lipid panel is always a good test to run when on AAS and when you are off cycle specially.
 
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Shamrockbear1

MuscleHead
Dec 24, 2011
315
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So should I get a liver and kidney test.
 
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