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Iron Den: help me put my cycle back together please

ziplocc

ziplocc

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Apr 14, 2013
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A lot of you know me. I keep posting threads about problems I'm running into so I was recommended to start a thread and get advice on how to put this plan together. Here's where I am:
8 weeks in cycle of test e by kalpa (ugl)
600 - 750mg a week split into two doses
30 years old
Been lifting for years, stopped for awhile to train for a fight now I'm interested in bodybuilding aspect not looking to compete in shows tho just wanna get bigger and stronger. Possibly plan on fighting again later.
First cycle
Doing this all by myself, don't know anybody in real life using AAS
209lbs.
5'10"
16ish% bf
Looking to continue to bulk to maybe 215 then cut for the remainder of the cycle. Plan on going until week 18
Here's what I have:
Test e
Arimidex
Clomid for pct
M-sten prohormone (originally planned to stack it at the beginning of cycle but stopped when side effects started showing up like test flu)

You guys care to help me piece this trainwreck back together so I don't waste this first cycle? If you don't know me I've posted in steroid section and in here. If you read my threads you can see the issues I'm having/had. Thanks.
 
big_paul_ski

big_paul_ski

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Dec 13, 2010
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It's really simple bro. Just stick with 600mg of test for the rest if your cycle. Clomid at 50 and nolva at 20 for 28 days. Or just clomid or nolva for 28 days.
 
GreatGunz

GreatGunz

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I believe what "D" meant was after you finish this cycle ask for input on your next one.
Any how your cycle isn't a train wreck try cutting back to 500mg a week split.
Save ur adex !

Get some cialis for a stand by
 
big_paul_ski

big_paul_ski

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Do not try to bulk and cut durring this cycle and I suggest you not cycle again until you have a better grasp on what going on.
 
ziplocc

ziplocc

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Thanks guys. Sorry for the miscommunication with D and starting yet another thread.

@paul you mean don't bulk OR cut or don't bulk then cut?
 
big_paul_ski

big_paul_ski

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Thanks guys. Sorry for the miscommunication with D and starting yet another thread.

@paul you mean don't bulk OR cut or don't bulk then cut?

Don't try to do both. Your already 8 weeks in so if your bulking continue to do so and leave it at that. Continue to eat big and train hard through out pct.
 
ziplocc

ziplocc

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Ok thanks. This all is really simple and trust me I did a lot of research before I even started looking for places to obtain gear but I think ehat happened is I started overthinking everything and it messed me up
 
big_paul_ski

big_paul_ski

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Ok thanks. This all is really simple and trust me I did a lot of research before I even started looking for places to obtain gear but I think ehat happened is I started overthinking everything and it messed me up

It happens bro so no worries.
 
TexSon

TexSon

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it should have been so, so simple. 250mg x 2 ew - 12 weeks.

finish this one out. worry about the next one later.

cut your teeth on this one. hopefully you've learned from it.

lesson 1: get help and adhere to it like it came from a burning bush.

no matter what, zipper. DO NOT STOP starting threads to ask for help.
 
B

Bigwhite

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it should have been so, so simple. 250mg x 2 ew - 12 weeks.

finish this one out. worry about the next one later.

cut your teeth on this one. hopefully you've learned from it.

lesson 1: get help and adhere to it like it came from a burning bush.

no matter what, zipper. DO NOT STOP starting threads to ask for help.

zipper...lol
 
woodswise

woodswise

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Ok thanks. This all is really simple and trust me I did a lot of research before I even started looking for places to obtain gear but I think ehat happened is I started overthinking everything and it messed me up

Bud, I did that too, my first time. When the experienced guys say stick with a certain level and don't change it, they know what they are talking about.

Luckily I have someone advising me who knows quite a bit about AAS. Once I started following his advice (i.e. stick to the plan, don't change doses every week or two, okay to not use AI while bulking, etc.), everything calmed down and I had my best bulk ever this fall/winter.

I think with some good advice from the guys on here, you'll get through this fine.
 
Rottenrogue

Rottenrogue

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To be honest with all of the issues you have had I don't know that aas is the best thing for you.
It may be due to doing stuff like not being consistent and shooting a gram for shits n giggles. You simply can't be doing that.
Follow what these guys lay down and don't deviate.
NOTHING is worth doing if your not going to commit to stay on a consistent plan
 
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