mscldrew
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Getting your gear tested is allot easier then you may think. But you will have to do some serious chemistry homework first. For those of you who live in the USA, most universities offer these services to industry and the public for a fee. First locate a major public university, I say "major" because Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry LC/MS machines don't grow on trees, although some smaller school may also have them.
Lets take world famous UC Berkeley for example, their fees for analyzing samples by LCMS are here:
QB3/Chemistry Mass Spectrometry Facility - Rates
I agree it is a little pricey at $153 per sample but if you think your going to buy a whole bunch of gear it could be worth it. I have seen fees as low as $10,, sleep with that chemistry graduate student and get all your samples run for free.
How much sample do they need? Literally 1 drop will do, the machines are extraordinarily sensitive.
So what does an LC/MS do? It separates all of the components of a mixture and determines there molecular weights. How does it do this... get a PhD.
So if you test a vial of Test Enth, the LC/MS should show a large amount of ions of molecular weigh 401.31, because that is the molecular weight of the Test Enth molecule,, +1 for ionization. You don't have to tell the people at the facility what your sample is, in fact most of the samples they run are unknowns (that's why they are testing!). Just say your looking for a mass of 401.31. If your sample doesn't have this large number of ions then there is no Test Enth in your sample.
I recently had a sample of the new Syntrop DPL4fifty from one of eroids top 5 suppliers tested. It was suppose to be composed of Test Enth and Drostanolone Enth. It did test positive for a large quantity of Test Enth, but there were no significant ions at 417.33, meaning no Drostanolone Enth, it was fake, but it would still have given me results if I had used it because it was loaded with testosterone. So now I have a question for you, how does anybody know what this steroid or that steroid actually does when you have no idea what's in your vial?
Lets take world famous UC Berkeley for example, their fees for analyzing samples by LCMS are here:
QB3/Chemistry Mass Spectrometry Facility - Rates
I agree it is a little pricey at $153 per sample but if you think your going to buy a whole bunch of gear it could be worth it. I have seen fees as low as $10,, sleep with that chemistry graduate student and get all your samples run for free.
How much sample do they need? Literally 1 drop will do, the machines are extraordinarily sensitive.
So what does an LC/MS do? It separates all of the components of a mixture and determines there molecular weights. How does it do this... get a PhD.
So if you test a vial of Test Enth, the LC/MS should show a large amount of ions of molecular weigh 401.31, because that is the molecular weight of the Test Enth molecule,, +1 for ionization. You don't have to tell the people at the facility what your sample is, in fact most of the samples they run are unknowns (that's why they are testing!). Just say your looking for a mass of 401.31. If your sample doesn't have this large number of ions then there is no Test Enth in your sample.
I recently had a sample of the new Syntrop DPL4fifty from one of eroids top 5 suppliers tested. It was suppose to be composed of Test Enth and Drostanolone Enth. It did test positive for a large quantity of Test Enth, but there were no significant ions at 417.33, meaning no Drostanolone Enth, it was fake, but it would still have given me results if I had used it because it was loaded with testosterone. So now I have a question for you, how does anybody know what this steroid or that steroid actually does when you have no idea what's in your vial?