What should I run for my first cycle

[sigmalifter67]

I am a intermediate lifter, I have been working out for 4 years consistently and am looking into enhancement, the only problem I'm having is I have no clue what to run for my first cycle besides test and am looking for some advice

 

[Jim2542]

Real talk: you probably should not run any cycle.

There are real, long-term health risks at play here and you've been training for a relatively short amount of time. No guarantee you're still even doing this 5-10-15 years down the road and there is every chance that you suffer from serious, permanent side effects from your cycle that you'd have to live with whether you kept up this lifestyle or not.

Steroids are for folks who have capped out on natural potential and still need more after hard training for a decade. Whether that be for competition or whatever other reason, not new to intermediate lifters that just want to get to their natural potential a little faster.

If you insist on running one, start with just Test (wouldn't go above 500mg/week) and keep an AI handy, especially if you're above 15% body fat. Would suggest Test E or C and pinning daily or every other day. And absolutely would not start any of that until you've done a ton of background reading on what kind of support supplements you should be taking to manage your health markers.

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[Lizard King]

Just Test E or C , 500mg a week. Gives you a base for future cycles if you decide to add anything else.

 

[sigmalifter67]

Real talk: you probably should not run any cycle.

There are real, long-term health risks at play here and you've been training for a relatively short amount of time. No guarantee you're still even doing this 5-10-15 years down the road and there is every chance that you suffer from serious, permanent side effects from your cycle that you'd have to live with whether you kept up this lifestyle or not.

Steroids are for folks who have capped out on natural potential and still need more after hard training for a decade. Whether that be for competition or whatever other reason, not new to intermediate lifters that just want to get to their natural potential a little faster.

If you insist on running one, start with just Test (wouldn't go above 500mg/week) and keep an AI handy, especially if you're above 15% body fat. Would suggest Test E or C and pinning daily or every other day. And absolutely would not start any of that until you've done a ton of background reading on what kind of support supplements you should be taking to manage your health markers.

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Thank you for your brutal honesty I really appreciate it, though I've only been seriously lifting and dieting for 4 years I've been working out closer to 6 and have found my real passion in it so I really appreciate your honesty and I think I will wait some time and just see, but for future reference, is there any advice you could give with running test that could help make sure my natural production is salvageable in order to have kids later in life?

 

[sigmalifter67]

Just Test E or C , 500mg a week. Gives you a base for future cycles if you decide to add anything else.

Thank you! I appreciate it and am looking into it right now!

 

[Jim2542]

Thank you for your brutal honesty I really appreciate it, though I've only been seriously lifting and dieting for 4 years I've been working out closer to 6 and have found my real passion in it so I really appreciate your honesty and I think I will wait some time and just see, but for future reference, is there any advice you could give with running test that could help make sure my natural production is salvageable in order to have kids later in life?

I was more talking about liver, kidney and arterial damage from steroid use that could have lifelong negative effects if not appropriately managed through consistent blood work and supplementation on cycle (to include things like RX medications that may be needed on cycle to protect those systems).

Fertility comes back for most people with a well designed PCT protocol and can be jumpstarted with HCG at appropriate dosages. I don't dabble much into HCG because infertility (temporary or otherwise) is a benefit of steroid use for me because of my age and lifestyle choices.

But I would be remiss if I didn't also caution that you need to be mentally prepared for, and come to terms with, the idea that your own natural production may never recover post-cycle, and that you may then need to consider lifelong TRT.

And if you aren't ready for those possibilities, then I'd suggest you aren't ready to cycle.

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[bigbumpkin]

100% do test only first. If you question why … the simple answer is you need to know your reactions and sides to this alone first. That way when you add another substance down the road if you have horrible sides you will at least know what the culprit is

 

[Glycomann]

First question i have is how old are you?

 

[Heady Muscle]

First question i have is how old are you?

There we go!

 

[Heady Muscle]

I am a intermediate lifter, I have been working out for 4 years consistently and am looking into enhancement, the only problem I'm having is I have no clue what to run for my first cycle besides test and am looking for some advice

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[Heady Muscle]

Real talk: you probably should not run any cycle.

There are real, long-term health risks at play here and you've been training for a relatively short amount of time. No guarantee you're still even doing this 5-10-15 years down the road and there is every chance that you suffer from serious, permanent side effects from your cycle that you'd have to live with whether you kept up this lifestyle or not.

Steroids are for folks who have capped out on natural potential and still need more after hard training for a decade. Whether that be for competition or whatever other reason, not new to intermediate lifters that just want to get to their natural potential a little faster.

If you insist on running one, start with just Test (wouldn't go above 500mg/week) and keep an AI handy, especially if you're above 15% body fat. Would suggest Test E or C and pinning daily or every other day. And absolutely would not start any of that until you've done a ton of background reading on what kind of support supplements you should be taking to manage your health markers.

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[sigmalifter67]

First question i have is how old are you?

I am 21 currently