Past 15 cycles used variations. I wont cycle without. Ive used water suspensiin 25mg . Used 100mg tne. I use with sustenon makes me super strong and hard. Plus i usually allow my girl the pleasure of my company every sat n sun....so tne has place in my weekend stud stack that a vet posted like years ago and ive been a fan since.... friday cialis sust, tne, saturday tne noon viagra before my date, sunday cialis , sust, tne and if she deserves it, another bedroom date and viagra and then you can wear her out.