More frequent deaths

[Yano]

I’m not looking to argue but I have a slightly different opinion. Also I noticed u mentioned crazy amounts of drugs and that’s not what I’m talking either. Currently on 300 test p and 300 npp and that’s a heavy blast for me. But I’m in the only care to look good at the beach crowd and smash some cunt.

My question is why does a plastic power lifting trophy justify someone else’s ego trip more than mine? These yahoo kids on social media blasting a load of gear (at least the top ones) are making serious bank. So there reasoning and financial security is less than one in hot pursuit of a plastic trophy? I don’t get it.

It’s freedom of choice. I personally don’t like someone saying my choice is stupid while I’m thinking there’s is worse than mine.

Its not about trophies its about accomplishment , goals and achieving them .... I'm not arguing either I find your choice stupid

An world records aren't plastic ,, try to get 4 of em for yourself its fun

 

[Heady Muscle]

I don't think the original post is to criticize anyone's choices regarding AAS. I simply think that with the recent passing of two well known people (Jason Lowe and GF) who were both young and seemingly in good health and got regular bloodwork, etc. it causes many of us to reflect and make sure we're making good choices.

For some of us, that might mean getting more regular bloodwork. Or a yearly or bi-yearly ECHO cardiogram, and annual calcium score, etc. F or others, it may mean re-evaluating our weekly androgen loads, etc. in any event, looking in the mirror and asking ourselves these questions is a good thing.

I'm a decent example of this. I'm planning on competing in shows in Sept and Oct of 2026, and I am planning on a push phase and cut phase between now and then. I am evaluating carefully just how aggressive I want to be with regards to the total anabolic load, quantity of GH and stimulants such as clen. I may choose to keep things where I originally planned, but if I do I want that to be an affirmative, well thought out decision, and not me simply be in auto-pilot. I think this thread is simply encouraging us all to be prudent.

Great post Tommy.
Thank you

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Sorry for anyone's and everyone's losses.

Great Danes don't live as long as chihuahuas. It's that simple. Our bodies aren't meant to handle mass over what our genetics dictate for the long term. Look at the new trend of NFL offensive linemen over the last 10-15 years. Once they retire, they drop a ton of weight. These are humans who are genetically naturally bigger then 99% of then general population. They either drop 50-70 lbs, or they start having health problems really fast after retirement. Stay too big for too long, stress your body too long over a long period of time - eventually your body can just quit on you despite good blood work.

As far as the drugs / AAS / etc - we all make our own choices, and have to sleep in the bed we made eventually. If you're on this forum, then you're probably a vet who's been around the block. We all know the risks.

 

[SAD]

As TG said, this isn’t about calling anyone out or judging doses or compounds. It’s merely an observation to some, a cautionary heads up to others, and maybe a wake up call to a certain few.

We all make our own choices and very few guys reading this thread are ignorant to the risks.

 

[Heady Muscle]

Here is a pretty good article about Dennis Newman and his fall from grace and surviving Leukemia.

Dennis Newman – Complete Profile: Height, Workout And Diet – Fitness Volt

Dennis Newman is a retired IFBB Pro bodybuilder. He is best known for winning the 1994 NPC USA Championships. This is his complete profile.

fitnessvolt.com

 

[Bigtex]

Here is a pretty good article about Dennis Newman and his fall from grace and surviving Leukemia.

Dennis Newman – Complete Profile: Height, Workout And Diet – Fitness Volt

Dennis Newman is a retired IFBB Pro bodybuilder. He is best known for winning the 1994 NPC USA Championships. This is his complete profile.

fitnessvolt.com

Good article, I just have a problem with this statement...."However, it was speculated that using growth hormone for bodybuilding purposes might have accelerated the process for him to get the condition in his early to mid-20s." In reality..... there's no strong evidence that HGH specifically accelerates leukemia development in people with genetic predispositions. Long-term studies of children treated with HGH for growth disorders haven't shown increased leukemia rates. But despite any scientific evidence, this fear keeps being passed around. People speculate, and the speculative ideas spreads with absolutely no scientific evidence.

 

[Heady Muscle]

Good article, I just have a problem with this statement...."However, it was speculated that using growth hormone for bodybuilding purposes might have accelerated the process for him to get the condition in his early to mid-20s." In reality..... there's no strong evidence that HGH specifically accelerates leukemia development in people with genetic predispositions. Long-term studies of children treated with HGH for growth disorders haven't shown increased leukemia rates. But despite any scientific evidence, this fear keeps being passed around. People speculate, and the speculative ideas spreads with absolutely no scientific evidence.

I agree with that.

I particularly liked what Newman said about The Dorian Era

Here is a good study about GH and cancer:

Risk of cancer in patients treated with recombinant human growth hormone in childhood - PMC

Recombinant human growth hormone (GH) has been in use for over 30 years, and its indications have gradually expanded from the classical replacement therapy in GH deficiency (GHD) to pharmacological therapy in patients with normal GH secretion. The ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Bigtex]

Very good study!

I agree! This is also a great story about a guy who was diagnosed with a life-ending disease and how he overcame it, most likely through the exercise benefits he received from training for bodybuilding.

Boost immune function: Research found that moderate to vigorous exercise increased anti-cancer immune cells (natural killer cells) by 254%, making antibody therapy more effective at killing leukemia cells in chronic lymphocytic leukemia

Moderate to intense exercise may boost efficacy of leukemia treatment

Recent research suggests that short bouts of moderate to intense exercise could boost the efficacy of a monoclonal antibody drug called rituximab, used to treat chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

A UCLA study found that young people with acute lymphoblastic leukemia who reduced calories by 10% and exercised 200 minutes weekly had 70% less chance of having lingering leukemia cells after a month of chemotherapy

Low-calorie diet and mild exercise improve survival for young people with leukemia

Overweight children participating in the intervention were 70% less likely to have detectable cancer cells after one month of treatment.

www.uclahealth.org