DHT derivatives

[GEAUX4TIGERS]

I'm looking at a long term cycle that will include peptides and steroids. I want to stack the peps with a low dose of test cyp 200-400mg/wk. I have been stacking deca and also tren-e low dose no more than 100mg/wk on my previous cycles and I felt good on these with my gains but I was having libido crash and I can't have that. Im getting older now and I think I want to stick with something like proviron, masteron or primobolin and get away for deca and tren. I have zero experience with the 3 DHT derivative substances so if anyone can give me there experiences with these I would appreciate it. Also can I stack these?

I am not looking for huge gains all I'm looking for is steady growth and better performance in the bed. I also want to feel energetic and 20 again (joint improvement). Hahaha. Leaner would be nice as well.

I'm 56 and actively been training since 2019. 5'10" 215lb 20% BF

Goal is steady growth and good health.

 

[JuiceTrain]

I've ran Mast for long periods of time up to 800mg ew for 6-7months and I've ran Primo in large doses for extendeds periods of time 1g for almost a year.

Now I'm not good with exactly giving scientific based responses but Masteron is better at running low dose than Primo in my experience.

Masteron is just stronger in terms of Mg per Mg strength.

You'll actually be able to visibly see physical changes on 200mg Mast EW vs 200mg EW Primo.

200mg Primo is more for biomarkers/blood work type shxt IMO. Abstract results.

- just inserting the standard diet and training spiel that we all know about but for the user that don't....

Diet & Training 1st.......Drugs 2nd

 

[GEAUX4TIGERS]

I've ran Mast for long periods of time up to 800mg ew for 6-7months and I've ran Primo in large doses for extendeds periods of time 1g for almost a year.

Now I'm not good with exactly giving scientific based responses but Masteron is better at running low dose than Primo in my experience.

Masteron is just stronger in terms of Mg per Mg strength.

You'll actually be able to visibly see physical changes on 200mg Mast EW vs 200mg EW Primo.

200mg Primo is more for biomarkers/blood work type shxt IMO. Abstract results.

- just inserting the standard diet and training spiel that we all know about but for the user that don't....

Diet & Training 1st.......Drugs 2nd

Great advice. I appreciate it.

 

[searay]

You'll have to do alot more than 200mg wk of primo to see any results. More like 1000mg wk plus a low dose of dball will help the cause! Masteron is more of an enhancer. It is meant to be stacked with something. Such as tren-test-mast. 200mg wk is perfect. Just my opinion......

 

[SFGiants]

Don't stack primo with the others, make sure test is at a good balance or e2 can crash very hard.

Proviron is an oral mast but weaker, you can do fine with just test and mast IMO.

200/200 Test/Mast is a great start.

If you went Primo, 400mg a week will do but test should be the same or higher for most people.

You are looking at about 800mg to 900mg a week vs 400mg a week.

Do not run an AI with primo, probably not a good idea with mast either.

 

[GEAUX4TIGERS]

Don't stack primo with the others, make sure test is at a good balance or e2 can crash very hard.

Proviron is an oral mast but weaker, you can do fine with just test and mast IMO.

200/200 Test/Mast is a great start.

If you went Primo, 400mg a week will do but test should be the same or higher for most people.

You are looking at about 800mg to 900mg a week vs 400mg a week.

Do not run an AI with primo, probably not a good idea with mast either.

I don't usually take AI but my estrogen levels were too high last blood work.
I think I'm going to go with 200 test / 200 mast no AI.
Stacking this with
Cjc1295, ipamorelin, bpc157
Looking at 25 weeks cycle.

 

[SFGiants]

I don't usually take AI but my estrogen levels were too high last blood work.
I think I'm going to go with 200 test / 200 mast no AI.
Stacking this with
Cjc1295, ipamorelin, bpc157
Looking at 25 weeks cycle.

Sounds like a solid plan to me with the test and mast, I see it as close to a trt with some extra.

 

[ogre]

300 Test 200 Mast has been my favorite for long periods.I like the peps too.