Janoshik Interview About Current State of the Anabolics Market

[Heady Muscle]

Thanks for posting.

 

[J2048b]

They keep messing up too bad, it's not legal in the US to obtain the software and such, it's requires strict licensing.

Always needs calibration and inspections with certification, Jano and the others are not only registered, licensed in their countries they are registered legally to received items into their countries.

There has been a few pop up in the US just to get ousted by the community!

I haven't gone apeshit on Jano with these mistakes myself and others are having this past year because it going to be a losing battle, esspecally with Meso. I know 2 other boards that have suppliers no longer trusting Jano on raws.

I do hope he gets straightened out as this is bad for our community to have such horrible different results on the same batch of raws from multiple people. Calling 94% 54% and 78% was the last straw.

As far as finished he is really good still, even hits blind mixes pretty spot on. It's something off with raws at times.

I hope he catches on and gets straight, we always need as many options we can find, I know of 4 but only have used 2.

I have had many personal talks with Jano, very good person, I just can't take these risks and if it was the absolute only option something like 94% reported as 54% is too costly at todays prices, and that's if you are lucky to know who has what these days.

54% would go in the garbage no questions asked, but I got a refund and was going to send it back, we then found out about the lab in Poland which we think is a branch off of Lab4Tox. I sent the money back after the results lol, was the absolute only one with deca at the time until about a month or 2 later.

Was sending it back for them to test, they were going to toss the entire inventory if the test was that low, the stopped all sells until I got the test from AB in Poland, that's how bad something like this effects us.

It's hard times and if one is not on top of it they are ass out, I been extremely lucky through all this!

and what sucks is he has a lot of these resellers, brewers and peotide companies by the balls! No refund if it isnt jano certified.. we only go thru jano and if he says its bad then we refund… id love to see the general user send to poland and jano to compare but even in meso he was fighting with the other testers claiming he was the only true one… competition breads pettiness and its time to have the competition so people dont have to rely on his services at the prices they currently are

4bill for gh? Cmon are u fucken kidding me?

 

[SFGiants]

and what sucks is he has a lot of these resellers, brewers and peotide companies by the balls! No refund if it isnt jano certified.. we only go thru jano and if he says its bad then we refund… id love to see the general user send to poland and jano to compare but even in meso he was fighting with the other testers claiming he was the only true one… competition breads pettiness and its time to have the competition so people dont have to rely on his services at the prices they currently are

4bill for gh? Cmon are u fucken kidding me?

I want him to be successful but also need consistent results on raws.

His claim to being the only one with multiple methods is false, Both labs in Poland also have all that and at least 1 has been in business longer!

It's the US labs popping up you need to stay away from!

 

[SFGiants]

and what sucks is he has a lot of these resellers, brewers and peotide companies by the balls! No refund if it isnt jano certified.. we only go thru jano and if he says its bad then we refund… id love to see the general user send to poland and jano to compare but even in meso he was fighting with the other testers claiming he was the only true one… competition breads pettiness and its time to have the competition so people dont have to rely on his services at the prices they currently are

4bill for gh? Cmon are u fucken kidding me?

Only on Meso and Meso is full of idiots!

Here is one example of Mesa cult idiots.

Because Tracy says lower quality EQ is better because higher purity don't hold, so they teach this!

I debunked it with purity of 94% and 98%, but they still teach Tracy's word because they can't get EQ at that puiry!

So according to the legends of Meso lower purity is best, purity in the 80's and lower!

But they also say they are about accountability at the sametime going hard on all other source and suppliers until they get control and prices were they want them along with the refund on testing, refund on purity under 94% and just about free or cheap everything. Unless it's Tracy who started robbing them this year and they allow it!

 

[SFGiants]

I have done several tests now with AB (Poland), it seems Jano and AB are getting finished oils the same but AB is showing to be superior on results with raws.

 

[tommyguns2]

I have done several tests now with AB (Poland), it seems Jano and AB are getting finished oils the same but AB is showing to be superior on results with raws.

That’s interesting. I wonder why. Is analyzing raw more difficult than a finished oil?

 

[SFGiants]

That’s interesting. I wonder why. Is analyzing raw more difficult than a finished oil?

I have no clue, maybe it's how his employees are handling it or testing it.

 

[Cohiba]

Lab4tox is another supposedly reputable testing place. I remember Jano saying they were actually legit and legal in what they do. AB I think his gripe about them was that they weren't properly licensed and operating legally in an actual lab. I don't know if there is any truth to this and the source is a competitor so obviously take that for what it is.

 

[SFGiants]

Lab4tox is another supposedly reputable testing place. I remember Jano saying they were actually legit and legal in what they do. AB I think his gripe about them was that they weren't properly licensed and operating legally in an actual lab. I don't know if there is any truth to this and the source is a competitor so obviously take that for what it is.

I think AB are people who left Lab4tox.

 

[SFGiants]

Lab4tox is another supposedly reputable testing place. I remember Jano saying they were actually legit and legal in what they do. AB I think his gripe about them was that they weren't properly licensed and operating legally in an actual lab. I don't know if there is any truth to this and the source is a competitor so obviously take that for what it is.

I also feel these other labs are much more experienced than Jano, by a decade!

 

[SFGiants]

I guess the best way I can sum this up is AB will be my 1st choice and for those that use Jano don't be afraid to get a second option if needed.

For me it hasn't been a 1 time issues and this time it was multiple people with the same deca batch.

Not for a 2nd opinion getting a test of 94% I would have tossed away a few grand trusting the 54% results. But another got 78% and seeing others finished products match 94%.

Shit happens, I get it, but I can't let it keep happening to me at my expense!

Maybe he is growing a bit too fast and can't oversee everyone and everything.

 

[Cohiba]

I guess the best way I can sum this up is AB will be my 1st choice and for those that use Jano don't be afraid to get a second option if needed.

For me it hasn't been a 1 time issues and this time it was multiple people with the same deca batch.

Not for a 2nd opinion getting a test of 94% I would have tossed away a few grand trusting the 54% results. But another got 78% and seeing others finished products match 94%.

Shit happens, I get it, but I can't let it keep happening to me at my expense!

Maybe he is growing a bit too fast and can't oversee everyone and everything.

A problem with testing defeats the whole purpose of testing. If you can't trust the testing then it's useless.