Question , for elbow pain I've been takin 375mgs a week of Deca, only been a week and 2 days but pain is still there. Could I have bunk Deca , or should I up the dosage or give it more time ??
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PB is a big fan of Vodo floss and I must admit some of the results Iv'e seen in patients is impressive.
I don't know of any controlled studies but suspect the MOA is reduction of swelling.
Im not convinced Deca is any more effective for "joint pains" than are other AAS which aromatize, or elevate E-2 by some other mechanism.
What supports this assertion? a couple of things really.
1) I've noted similar relief of "joint symptoms" pain in particular when mates are cycling TT, D-Bol, Nandrolone, Adrol etc
2) Their symptoms return once placed on an AI or the E-2 is maintained below roughly 40pg/ml
3) The difference in arthroscopic observational joint swelling is impressive on those OFF vs ON aromatizable AAS
(I'll admit it's anecdotal and only 3-4 patients but lends credence to my other observations. Bias on my part,
perhaps but I've no vested interest financially
4) I'll admit Nandrolne seems to be the most beneficial at equipotent dosages but Ive also noted Bolo is a very close second esp if TT is added
GUYS I'm not suggesting my observations or "experience" are evidence per say but we could all benefit if a few mates change their next cycle.
Some suggestions? A cycle with TT, D-bol only check that E-2 then add an AI and recheck the E-2. My suspicion? Your symptoms will returns once the E-2 normalizes as does the soft tissue swelling within the joint.
There are a variety of "E-2 heavy" cycles and you fellas know that better than myself, but just pay particular attention to your E-2, immediate weight gain (that's almost always bc of an elevated E-2) and try to correlate the two.
I mean if several mates did this type of analysis it could help determine if E-2 is the primary causation????
Respects
Jim
