just checked, it was you, you like wasting people's time? C'mon dude, nobody (one person) jumped on the tread as the supps suck ass and are a waste of cash. Or keep asking unitl you hear the info you want to hear, then go support the supp industry with your hard earned cash if you prefer...
when you take B vitamins you have a very, very little a similiar feeling in the beginning (apart from the optical depth impact).
But with this carnitine it is very strong - like a soft antidepressant.
It's annoying to me.