Wow..now these are the type of threads i love..brings me back! So many products i spent my very limited cash on, it should be a crime lol. Russian bear, hot stuff, metabolol, vanadyl PH, ultimate orange, betagen (worked like deca lol), Rx Fuel, thermadrene, and so many more. I remember when creatine first really came out, and how damn expensive it was (especially if you bought EAS)!!! And you had to use it with grape juice, or it wouldn't work as well. All the little ads in the back of the magazines "dibencozide works like dianabol" or "boron just like anavar only natural" lol. The "grey" market products that "work so well they'll be illegal soon", and lets not forget the HOMEOPATHIC products, that do everything test, and gh do but with out the sides!!! It's crazy when i think of all the money i wasted, but yet i still would go back and do it all over again!!! =) Great, and crazy times!!! CJ