So when you say "I wonder if in say Saudi Arabia where they will chop your hand off for shoplifting if a guy thinks twice?"....do you actually know what happens or are you wondering? I ask bc I've been to Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine, Jordan, etc. I know first hand what happens there and don't have to wonder. It might shock you to know that even with their barbaric laws crime, and violent crime, still occurs. Apparently not the deterrent you thought it was.
Compare their crime rate per capita with ours and YES it is quite the deterent there. To this day they have public lashings, beatings and hangings. Let me ask you this how many liquor stores did you see in Saudi Arabia?
When you say "That's backwards thinking and giving into criminal tendencies." Again do you know what happens? My cousin's husband worked on a case last year involving a triple homicide and robbery. When asked why he killed the victims when they complied with him and handed over their belongings, the suspect admitted bc he didn't want witnesses or any trails leading back to him since he would be facing charges. The thought of capital punishment just made him get rid of the witnesses. Contrary to what you think, this is a true story as told straight from the mouth of a police officer who worked on the case.
Now how did I know you would say this and had the foresight to address it with my og post? The liberal side is strong with this one!! While there are exceptions to EVERY Rule we cannot gauge how many lives were saved by the deterent of capital punishment. Too easy to use the exceptions Doc, it's like the argument libs use against firearms. We can never know how many crimes and lives were saved due to firearms. We only see the exceptions.
''When you say "Look at violent crime rates in countries that practice open executions and capital\severe punishment." Are you suggesting we follow in the footsteps of such countries like Pillar queried? I ask bc I thought America was a civilized country and the greatest country on earth. If we are so civilized and so great, why must we resort to such barbaric measures that don't even work?
Doc... the examples of these Tird World countries were just that examples. Sorry they absolutely work .
When you say "Say in Taiwan where they will cane you for spitting on a public street if a guy thinks twice before spitting." Are you seriously suggesting someone be caned for spitting? See my point above about being civilized. And I spit wherever I go. I'll be damned if someone tells me I can or cannot spit on the sidewalk.
Our ''society' is devolving, not evolving. Case in point take a look at families in the 40' 50's-60's black, white n brown OVERWHELMING MAJORITY had a Mother and Father in the home as well as wearing suits n ties. Divorce and obscenities were the definite exception not the norm. Listen to the music and tv shows and tell me we're ''evolving''.
When you say "Chop a few heads off , start frying these fools and watch the crime rate plummet and death row have vacancies!" Do you mean to tell me that capital punishment actually works? If so then how do you explain the state of Texas that has one of the highest rate of executions in the country if not the highest and yet still has a serious problem with violent crime? Or what about California where the 3 strike law is everywhere and criminals facing their 3rd strike STILL commit crimes knowing what the outcome will likely be?
Yes. Libs are attacking the 3 strikes laws and cutting felons along with minor offenses loose due to ''inhumane housing conditions''.
face facts GMan, this isn't a political argument nor was I trying to make it one so part of your post is irrelevant to the discussion, BUT capital punishment has NEVER been satisfactorily shown to work as advertised by it's supporters. Until you attempt to understand the motivating factors behind crime you'll never know how to minimize it (you'll never prevent it completely) and all you'll accomplish is killing or maiming people for the sake of enjoyment or profit for others.
