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FedEx Indicted for Shipping Drugs from Online Pharmacies

JDUB

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wow this is big....expect some other stuff branching off to others...IMO
 
shortz

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This is fed trying to beat up their competition at usps. Considering usps does the same thing.


Yup. People are getting away from the USPS more and more every day because there is little to no accountability. You can get really screwed if something happens to your pack. Meanwhile, UPS and Fedex still have some accountability. The feds are losing a ton of money. Look at all the changes they had to make to their delivery policies, scheduling, rate increases over the last couple years etc. They are getting desperate to continue running. Look at the big ass taxes the fed just put on making internet orders from certain areas. They are forcing us out of a free market.

It's time again for some good ole' Reaganomics. Let the free market be free and the economy will naturally stabilize.

People don't realize that the economy HAS to have natural ups an downs. If it's up for too long, we see a crash like we just experienced. It was forced, and forced for too long.

Sorry, I am going to stop now because I am getting off topic.
 
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USPS has a big push on , Amazon wants product delivered on Sundays now. I think they are going to actually try to get profitable and they also have friends in the fed gubamint that will help squash the competition. Dirtbags in our gubamint

So . . . . when Amazon did that press release about using drones to deliver their packs, they weren't talking about the kind of drones that fly?
 
Stumpy

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So . . . . when Amazon did that press release about using drones to deliver their packs, they weren't talking about the kind of drones that fly?

In a filing with the Federal Aviation Administration that got widespread attention Friday, Amazon asked for permission to test its drone delivery system outdoors, a practice that is banned for safety reasons. Never mind for the moment the fact that the F.A.A. said a few weeks ago that there would be no commercial uses of drones in a memo that did not mention Amazon but pointedly excluded even the free shipping of items by drone. That’s a lobbying battle for another day.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...e-delivery-system/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
 
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So . . . . when Amazon did that press release about using drones to deliver their packs, they weren't talking about the kind of drones that fly?



lol Stump, that was a little play on words at the PO's expense. Back before Amazon, and the Pentagon, "drone" was used to describe someone who didn't offer much, a low level mindless employee was a common usage. Back before that, it was applied to the breeding bull bees who tickle a queen bee's fancy and don't do much of anything else.
 
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online

FedEx Corp. (FDX:US) was accused in a federal indictment of delivering prescription pain pills, sedatives, anti-anxiety drugs and other controlled substances for illegal Internet pharmacies. A conviction could be “material,” the company said today in a regulatory filing.
The operator of the world’s largest (FDX:US) cargo airline was indicted on 15 counts of conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and misbranded drugs and drug trafficking that carry a potential fine of twice the gains from the illegal conduct, alleged to be at least $820 million for it and co-conspirators. FedEx delivered drugs to Internet pharmacies that supplied pills to customers who filled out online questionnaires and were never examined by doctors, knowing these practices violated federal and state drug laws, according to the federal indictment.
The company vowed to fight the charges, saying it can’t be responsible for the contents of the 10 million packages it transports daily and that policing customers would violate their privacy.
Story: Second-Mover Advantage: UPS Will Start Charging Higher Prices for Big Boxes Sooner Than FedEx
“FedEx is innocent of the charges,” Patrick Fitzgerald, a spokesman for the Memphis, Tennessee-based company, said yesterday in an e-mailed statement. “We will plead not guilty. We will defend against this attack on the integrity and good name of FedEx and its employees.”
Yesterday’s indictment in federal court in San Francisco comes more than a year after United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS:US) agreed to forfeit $40 million in payments it received from illicit online pharmacies under a non-prosecution agreement with the U.S. Justice Department.
[h=2]Business Tenet[/h]FedEx said last year that an indictment or prosecution in the case would threaten a basic tenet of its shipping business - - not opening packages. Revenue from online pharmaceutical shipments is a small percentage of total sales, the company previously said. FedEx reported $44.3 billion in revenue for fiscal 2013.
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If convicted, the company could face fines, penalties, forfeiture and compliance conditions, it said today in the regulatory filing.
“Given the early stage of this proceeding, we cannot estimate the amount or range of loss, if any; however, it is reasonably possible that it could be material if we are convicted,” according to the filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
[h=2]Pharmacy List[/h]FedEx said yesterday it repeatedly asked the government for a list of illegal pharmacies so it would know which ones not to do business with. The U.S. never gave it such a list, it said.
Video: FedEx Q4 Earnings Beat Analysts’ Estimate
The company knew it was delivering drugs to dealers and addicts, with couriers in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia expressing concerns circulated to senior managers that FedEx trucks were stopped on the road by online pharmacy customers demanding packages of pills, according to the indictment. Some delivery addresses were parking lots or vacant homes, prosecutors said.
“This indictment highlights the importance of holding corporations that knowingly enable illegal activity responsible for their role in aiding criminal behavior,” U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag in San Francisco said in a statement.
[h=2]Arrests, Shutdowns[/h]The illegal deliveries began in 2000, Haag said, and FedEx continued to do business with one Internet pharmacy whose manager had been arrested for violating drug laws. She said the company also served a fulfillment pharmacy that supplied Internet pharmacies that were shut by law enforcement, with their owners and doctors convicted of illegally distributing drugs.
Story: Fewer Cargo Planes, More Cargo in Passenger Planes
UPS, in its March 2013 agreement (UPS:US), acknowledged doing business with online pharmacies even after it learned they were illegally distributing controlled substances without requiring valid prescriptions.
UPS, based in Atlanta, also agreed to establish a compliance program designed to ensure such customers won’t be able to use its services to illegally distribute drugs.
Under the U.S. Controlled Substances Act, a shipping or freight company is allowed to possess and transport drugs “in the lawful and usual course of its business” without registering with drug enforcement authorities. The law regulates the manufacture and distribution of narcotics and certain other drugs and chemicals used in the illegal production of controlled substances.
Video: China Blocks Key European Shipping Pact
Consumers are turning to online pharmacies because of the convenience and privacy of purchasing medicines there, and as insurance companies encourage home delivery for long-term medications, according to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration website.
The case is U.S. v. FedEx Corp., 14-cr-00380, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco).
To contact the reporters on this story: Karen Gullo in federal court in San Francisco at [email protected]; Mary Schlangenstein in Dallas at [email protected]
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Michael Hytha at [email protected]; Ed Dufner at [email protected] Joe Schneider

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Moral of this story. Ship your PEDs thru the USPS. Let our "Gov" sue themselves.

There is a minor prob but that"s for another thread .

Regs
Jim
 
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online

FedEx Corp. (FDX:US) was accused in a federal indictment of delivering prescription pain pills, sedatives, anti-anxiety drugs and other controlled substances for illegal Internet pharmacies. A conviction could be “material,” the company said today in a regulatory filing.
The operator of the world’s largest (FDX:US) cargo airline was indicted on 15 counts of conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and misbranded drugs and drug trafficking that carry a potential fine of twice the gains from the illegal conduct, alleged to be at least $820 million for it and co-conspirators. FedEx delivered drugs to Internet pharmacies that supplied pills to customers who filled out online questionnaires and were never examined by doctors, knowing these practices violated federal and state drug laws, according to the federal indictment.
The company vowed to fight the charges, saying it can’t be responsible for the contents of the 10 million packages it transports daily and that policing customers would violate their privacy. QUOTE]






''Something stinks because I've never seen a online Pharm that will sell narcs without a prescription. The things most of us use aren't controlled substances''
 
dr jim

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-17/fedex-indicted-for-distributing-controlled-drugs-online

FedEx Corp. (FDX:US) was accused in a federal indictment of delivering prescription pain pills, sedatives, anti-anxiety drugs and other controlled substances for illegal Internet pharmacies. A conviction could be “material,” the company said today in a regulatory filing.
The operator of the world’s largest (FDX:US) cargo airline was indicted on 15 counts of conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and misbranded drugs and drug trafficking that carry a potential fine of twice the gains from the illegal conduct, alleged to be at least $820 million for it and co-conspirators. FedEx delivered drugs to Internet pharmacies that supplied pills to customers who filled out online questionnaires and were never examined by doctors, knowing these practices violated federal and state drug laws, according to the federal indictment.
The company vowed to fight the charges, saying it can’t be responsible for the contents of the 10 million packages it transports daily and that policing customers would violate their privacy. QUOTE]






''Something stinks because I've never seen a online Pharm that will sell narcs without a prescription. The things most of us use aren't controlled substances''

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I suspect the Feds have "closed down" or severely restricted US sales of schedule II and III drugs. Those include almost all narcotics. The indictment was probably filed for offenses that transpired prior to the Fed restrictions.

However schedule IV drugs such as Valium, Ativzn, Xanax are still being sold on line. Having said that many of these "Pharmacies" were carbon copies of AAS UGL, such that the consumer had no quality or delivery guarantees!

There was an expose on Fox several months ago, in which they "discovered" all schedule II on line drugs were absolutely bogus.
Jim
 
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tommyguns2

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$820 million is not chump change. I wonder how much pressure was brought to bear by U.S. pharm companies who lose money when grandma and grandpa order their meds from a canadian pharm at a fraction of the cost, and have them delivered by FedEx or UPS.
 
dr jim

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$820 million is not chump change. I wonder how much pressure was brought to bear by U.S. pharm companies who lose money when grandma and grandpa order their meds from a canadian pharm at a fraction of the cost, and have them delivered by FedEx or UPS.

It's generally considered legal to purchase NON-scheduled pharmaceuticals on line (using a questioner to determine an "indication" justifying the writing of an RX) providing the quantity is for "personal use". Although the definition of personal use is vague, many attorneys believe a quantity limited to a 90 day supply or less would seem "reasonable".

Scheduled drugs are "probably" also fine if and only if accompanied by a prescription written by the examining physician.

Would Big Pharma have a stake in this sure but since the indictment is for scheduled substances their interest would seem somewhat limited
because, with a few exceptions, most scheduled drugs are available in a generic
form within the US.

Respects TG
Jim
 
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graniteman

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I suspect the Feds have "closed down" or severely restricted US sales of schedule II and III drugs. Those include almost all narcotics. The indictment was probably filed for offenses that transpired prior to the Fed restrictions.

However schedule IV drugs such as Valium, Ativzn, Xanax are still being sold on line. Having said that many of these "Pharmacies" were carbon copies of AAS UGL, such that the consumer had no quality or delivery guarantees!

There was an expose on Fox several months ago, in which they "discovered" all schedule II on line drugs were absolutely bogus.
Jim

Operation Pangea : http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/federal-sting-closes-1600-illegal-pharmacy-websites-070813.html
 
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