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IronInsanity

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Clearly these golden era bodybuilders were doing something right.

Current ages of bodybuilders in the movie Pumping Iron:
 
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Clearly these golden era bodybuilders were doing something right.

Current ages of bodybuilders in the movie Pumping Iron:


Dave Draper was diagnosed with genetic congestive heart failure in 1983 and lived a pretty long, healthy life until 2021. He was 79 years old.

Jim Arrington (born September 1, 1932) is the world’s oldest living professional bodybuilder, officially recognized by Guinness World Records. At 93 years old,
 
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Some more research on Mr. Olympia winners (ChatGPT):

️ Golden Era (1965–1983)​

Focus: Aesthetics, proportion, moderate bodyweight, lower drug intensity

AthleteStatusAge (current / at death)
Larry ScottDeceased75
Sergio OlivaDeceased71
Arnold SchwarzeneggerAlive78
Franco ColumbuDeceased78
Frank ZaneAlive83
Chris DickersonDeceased82
Era takeaways

  • Average lifespan (deceased): ~77 years
  • Lowest average bodyweights
  • Longest-lived cohort overall
  • Emphasis on symmetry > size

Transitional Era (1983–1991)​

Focus: Size and shape, beginning of mass emphasis

AthleteStatusAge
Samir BannoutAlive70
Lee HaneyAlive66
Era takeaways

  • Haney was huge but controlled
  • Still strong longevity outcomes
  • Often cited as the best balance era

Mass Monster Era (1992–2010)​

Focus: Extreme mass, heavy compounds, very high bodyweight

AthleteStatusAge
Dorian YatesAlive63
Ronnie ColemanAlive61
Jay CutlerAlive52
Era takeaways

  • Massive bodyweights (260–300+ lbs)
  • Significant orthopedic & health toll
  • Still living, but mobility issues common
  • Shorter healthspan, not necessarily lifespan (yet)

⚡ Modern Era (2011–Present)​

Focus: Mass + conditioning, insulin era, year-round size

AthleteStatusAge
Dexter JacksonAlive56
Phil HeathAlive46
Shawn RhodenDeceased46
Brandon CurryAlive43
Big RamyAlive41
Hadi ChoopanAlive38
Derek LunsfordAlive32
Era takeaways

  • Highest average lean mass ever
  • More early deaths appearing (Rhoden, others non-Olympia)
  • Still too early for full longevity data
  • Heavy reliance on modern pharmacology

Big Picture Comparison​

EraAvg Lifespan / Current AgeBodyweight TrendLongevity Outlook
Golden EraHighest (~77–83)ModerateBest
TransitionalHighModerate-HighVery good
Mass MonsterMid-60sExtremeMixed
Modern30s–50sExtreme+Unknown / concerning

Bottom-line insight​

The data strongly suggests:

  • Aesthetics + restraint = longer life
  • Extreme mass correlates with reduced healthspan
  • Haney-style balance may be the historical sweet spot
 
Ron OG Mouse

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As someone who has followed the sport from the 80's IMO guys like Ronnie ruined the sport. I am a fan for sure he was a great champion. But the stuff he could do and did do was not healthy for him or the guys who grew up looking up to him. Back then the rumor was 18iu of growth a day but honestly now thats not even close to what these guys use. That much growth over time will literally kill you. Plus he was a genetic beast so guys are trying to compare with him and have to go even further to do that.

For me I always like the physique of these golden era guys more anyway. Once you got to the Ronnie vs Jay days the sport got too much about what your willing to risk to win.
 
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Crazy to see Arnold at 78 still going strong. Those guys clearly had a solid mix of training, nutrition, and lifestyle habits that really paid off long-term.
 
Bigtex

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As someone who has followed the sport from the 80's IMO guys like Ronnie ruined the sport. I am a fan for sure he was a great champion. But the stuff he could do and did do was not healthy for him or the guys who grew up looking up to him. Back then, the rumor was 18iu of growth a day, but honestly, now that's not even close to what these guys use. That much growth over time will literally kill you. Plus he was a genetic beast, so guys are trying to compare with him and have to go even further to do that.

For me I always like the physique of these golden era guys more anyway. Once you got to the Ronnie vs Jay days the sport got too much about what your willing to risk to win.

Unfortunately, most elite athletes are willing to do whatever it takes to win long before they ever became elite. No matter what sport. So at some point, you have to make the individual decision on whether the risks are worth the rewards. Think about sports like drag racing...one wreck and bad things can happen. But there is no shortage of people who are willing to take that risk.

Genetic best is the truth. I honestly think Coleman was the greatest all-time. Not sure we will ever have anyone like this again. (My opinion). Unlike most, I was able to do what Ronnie did and more. I out-benched him, out-squatted him, and also had an 800lb deadlift. However, John Inzer was the guy I looked up to. I could easily compete with Ronnie in the strength department when he was at his peak.

Now,this rumor that Ronnie used 18iu/day? From an interview he did, he claimed he did 4iu. "Ronnie Coleman: “Just drop the drug, drop to cold turkey pretty much. And the GH was the same way. We're getting in like 4 IUs a day." In any case, 18iu was not normal during that period of time, and most never did much more that10iu/d. 3-8iu/d was a more common dose since it was relatively new in sport.


Surgery count: Coleman has had 13 total surgeries: nine on his back, two on his neck, and two hip replacements. Coleman clarified that his back issues started before bodybuilding, revealing he first injured his back during his sophomore year playing football, followed by a neck injury. What made it worse is that he never treated the first injury. Untreated disc problems can lead to osteoarthritis developing in the spine. So in Ronnie Coleman's case, leaving his disc herniation untreated for a decade while continuing to lift extremely heavy weights likely accelerated both disc degeneration and the development of spinal osteoarthritis throughout his spine. Osteoarthritis, normally, is strongly influenced by genetics. While genetics explains 40-70% of risk, that means 30-60% is explained by environmental factors. Joint injuries like ACL tears/disk injuries etc can cause osteoarthritis to occur earlier in life. We do know from research that weight training helps protect joints and the spine against osteoarthritis. Even with a previous injury. Based on what we know about untreated injuries and spinal degeneration, the answer is very likely yes—Coleman probably would have developed significant spinal problems even without the heavy lifting.

Back to the high doses of HGH, while there's evidence high-dose GH increases mortality risk, most data comes from vulnerable populations, and definitive evidence in healthy. adults using bodybuilding doses remains limited. So there is NO evidence that high doses of HGH will increase mortality in bodybuilders. So we can't assume from research on critically ill patients and children with long-term health problems that the same will happen to a healthy bodybuilder. Coleman has admitted to anabolic steroid use and HGH, but has always been very vague on what he used. All the stuff I have seen on the internet are people's guesses. About 1:10seconds Colemen talks about steroid use. He's very vague and says she was not taking massive amounts; he was just gifted and spent years lifting heavy weights. He also got everything from a doctor, tested 3-4 months, and cycled off cold turkey....all under a doctor's supervision.

 
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Golden Era was absolutely the greatest. For me, Bodybuilding was always sculpting the ideal, not necessarily just getting as big as possible. There are lots of amazing guys out there, including a bunch of no names, who still go for that. No disrespect to any others of course. I think it's clear that modern Bodybuilding pros are experiencing more health issues.
 
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