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First cycle in 3 years. Have a question about AI

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wmo27

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Whats up Den? Planning to run my first cycle in 3 years. Here is what I was ordering and how I think I should run it. I am unsure what AI to use since I have never used either before, so please let me know which may be better in your opinions. Also I have never used a short ester in combination with a long ester and not sure if I am timing everything right. I was thinking the NPP/TPP would kick in quickly and by the time it runs ouyt around week 3 the enanthate and decanoate esters should just be kicking in. Is this correct?

weeks 1- 3 Test PP 450/week and NPP 300/week
weeks 1-10 Test E 600/week and Deca 300/week
250iu hcg bi-weekly throughout cycle

150 Test E HRT every week afterward and Nolva PCT

Undecided whether or not to run Arimidex or Cabergoline? Cant afford both

Also I am half considering to just throw in the short ester bottle at the end of the cycle to run a total of 13 weeks. So instead of running TPP/NPP weeks 1-3, I would only use it weeks 10-13 and not at all in the beginning.
Any personal thoughts on which may be better? Thanks
 
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Whats up Den? Planning to run my first cycle in 3 years. Here is what I was ordering and how I planned to run it. I am unsure what AI to use since I have never used either before, so please let me know which may be better in your opinions.

weeks 1- 3 Test PP 450/week and NPP 300/week
weeks 1-10 Test E 600/week and Deca 300/week
250iu hcg bi-weekly throughout cycle

Undecided whether or not to run Arimidex or Cabergoline? Cant afford both

Also I am half considering to just throw in the short ester bottle at the end of the cycle to run a total of 13 weeks. So instead of running TPP/NPP weeks 1-3, I would only use it weeks 10-13 and not at all in the beginning.
Any personal thoughts on which may be better? Thanks
Adex for sure to control estrogen. Caber would be for prolactin. You will find a divided field when it comes to caber use but I use it with deca and tren and never had the dreaded deca/tren dick…
 
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wmo27

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any other thoughts on running the short ester either at beginning or end of cycle?
 
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I would run the short ester test and nandralone at the beginning of the cycle to get things moving nicely. Not sure why you'd want to run it at the end.
 
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Whats up Den? Planning to run my first cycle in 3 years. Here is what I was ordering and how I planned to run it. I am unsure what AI to use since I have never used either before, so please let me know which may be better in your opinions.

weeks 1- 3 Test PP 450/week and NPP 300/week
weeks 1-10 Test E 600/week and Deca 300/week
250iu hcg bi-weekly throughout cycle

Undecided whether or not to run Arimidex or Cabergoline? Cant afford both

Also I am half considering to just throw in the short ester bottle at the end of the cycle to run a total of 13 weeks. So instead of running TPP/NPP weeks 1-3, I would only use it weeks 10-13 and not at all in the beginning.
Any personal thoughts on which may be better? Thanks

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Since all the AAS your cycling increase E-2 having an AI on hand would seem important.
I suggest running the shorter esters at the end of your cycle. Why since the half life is shorter, the time awaiting HTPA restoration will be reduced.

Am I reading your cycle correctly, you intend to run NPP and Deca simultaneously? Why?

Really if that's indeed the case whether you select the T-e or T-p ester will matter not since the Nandrolone will limit post cycle HTPA recovery for weeks.

jim
 
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No, I intended to run NPP to kick in quickly until the dec a kicks in around week 3. Unless I ran it at the end. Either way I will be returning to hrt doses afterward. I still am unsure of the caber or arimi. I am thinking maybe caber, but I have no experience taking either of these compounds
 
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dr jim

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No, I intended to run NPP to kick in quickly until the dec a kicks in around week 3. Unless I ran it at the end. Either way I will be returning to hrt doses afterward. I still am unsure of the caber or arimi. I am thinking maybe caber, but I have no experience taking either of these compounds


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AIs are to decrease Estrogen and since all those AAS you have selected increase E-2, would recommend the Arimidex.

The Gaber well, I've no use for it, but some believe it's useful for "increased prolactin", which again IMO is not a problem.

Jim
 
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